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To: smvoice; CynicalBear; daniel1212
No, you have not answered all questions several times. Where will Paul be when the Kingdom is set up, and Peter and the 11 are seated on twelve thrones, judging the 12 tribes of Israel? If they preached the SAME gospel, they should be seated at the same place. Next to Christ on His throne. I'll wait until you can get the answer. It's very important.

It is clear that having two gospels preached needs to be a fact to fit the eschatolgy you adhere to. Very much the same how those who see "church" must make NT fit their history and eschatology. That I am afraid is the danger of letting things future influence how things were actually in the past.

None of your references established two different gospels. I have presented many references and so have others on how the gospel is for Jew and Greek (Gentile). That is a hard fact to overcome because both Peter and Paul say the same thing (Acts 10 and Acts 15).

Since you do not want to explain the sources for the two gospel theory, I will have to assume it either comes from the Emergent Church or an ultra-dispensationialist or hyper-dispensationalist model.

I have to say it all does not add up. If there is also a kingdom gospel, where is it today? What church or assembly holds to that kingdom gospel? If it was superceded why did Peter and the 11 continue to preach a superceded gospel among the Jews after Paul received another gospel? Where are these kingdom gospel followers today?

We do have this from Hebrews 2:

Therefore we must give the more earnest heed to the things we have heard, lest we drift away. 2 For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just reward, 3 how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him, 4 God also bearing witness both with signs and wonders, with various miracles, and gifts of the Holy Spirit, according to His own will?

244 posted on 11/25/2013 5:43:36 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter; CynicalBear; Iscool
Israel had the Kingdom gospel. When they were set aside, so was the gospel of the kingdom. Until the fullness of the Gentiles be brought in. With the gospel of the grace of God. There are plenty of people trying to follow the kingdom gospel today (you included) but that is another gospel for another time that WILL be preached and taught and followed again, once the Body of Christ is raptured and the tribulation begins, with God once again dealing with His Kingdom people, the nation Israel.

So where will Paul be when the Kingdom is set up? Where in the Kingdom is his throne? It's not with Christ and the 12. Christ said there would be 12 thrones beside His.

In the Book of Acts you will find several two-somes: law and grace. A kingdom of believers and a Body of believers. The gospel of the circumcision and the gospel of the uncircumcision. Peter's vision. Paul's vision. Peter's message. Paul's message. Earthly inheritances and heavenly inheritances. Physical and spiritual. "Time past", "But Now".

But I'll leave you with your own way of explaining the differences. You would be wise to follow 2 Tim. 2:15. So far you seem to be completely in the dark, but happy. I hope that remains enough.

246 posted on 11/25/2013 6:03:02 PM PST by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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