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To: daniel1212; smvoice
>> That is commonly taught, but incorrect except in the general sense that that the Holy Spirit was not poured out upon all believers.<<

Pleas show the Old Testament scripture that shows the Holy Spirit dwelling within those OT believers as opposed to just speaking to them.

>> i see that is speculation at best, as the existence of the temple and sacrifices in the Trib can be seen as a restoration of Judaism, but not as a means of salvation, but instead the Lord shall manifest them as being void, as they must and will look upon the Lord Jesus for salvation by faith, as they always must.<<

The Temple is to be rebuilt per the instructions of God. All sacrifices are to be resumed as it is the continuation of the 490 years prophesied by Daniel.

>> The last indication i see of souls being saved in the Trib. before the end is,<<

Whoa there. Revelation 11:13 says they “give glory to God” just as they had done in the Old Testament. It does not say they recognized Jesus as the Messiah at that point. The “remnant” at the point has simply been “set apart”.

135 posted on 11/24/2013 11:30:29 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear
Pleas show the Old Testament scripture that shows the Holy Spirit dwelling within those OT believers as opposed to just speaking to them.

Although this seems to have a critical effect on your hyper dispensation soteriology, that the Holy Spirit was in holy men is what the KJV and every translation (15) i have says,

Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. (1 Peter 1:11)

The Temple is to be rebuilt per the instructions of God. All sacrifices are to be resumed as it is the continuation of the 490 years prophesied by Daniel.

I see that but not as a means of salvation. And not the Temple of Ezekiel and Zech. 8

Whoa there. Revelation 11:13 says they “give glory to God” just as they had done in the Old Testament. It does not say they recognized Jesus as the Messiah at that point. The “remnant” at the point has simply been “set apart”.

I said "indicated," as in John, fearing God, and giving glory to Him is the gospel message, as that is what faith in the Lord Jesus does in the expression of a soul saved by faith.

And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. (Revelation 14:6-7)

We must leave room for interpretation in doctrinal details of eschatology, unlike cults which major on it because it is substantially unclear.

171 posted on 11/24/2013 3:26:25 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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