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To: Reo; metmom; daniel1212; GarySpFc; Gamecock; CynicalBear
I do believe John 6 begins with verse 1 as well. Loads going on in the entire chapter to include verse 63. When the Jews started discussing manna from heaven given by Moses (really Jesus), Jesus begins His similtude of faith/trust (belief) in Him as the Son of God.

If Rome wants to build a major theology on a similtude that does not correspond to the Last Supper, that is fine, but they need to be honest about other similtudes Jesus spoke as well. He is the Door; the Vine; the Word. We understand what Jesus meant by "the Door." He is the door to the Father. We don't have an earthly door in which to enter, because it is in the Person of Jesus Christ. We understand the term “Word” (Greek logos) designates God the Son with respect to His deity; “Jesus” and “Christ” refer to His incarnation and saving work. We do not "eat" a Bible to receive the Word. The Vine is used to show The Father is in the Son, the Son in the Father, The believer in the Son and the Son in the believer. Quite a 'complicated' circuit thus the Vine.

These are powerful similtudes, pictorals if you will of a definate REALITY of Jesus Christ. None of them are giving us a physical reality other than the death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. That happened once for all.

We are told by the Master in verse 63:

63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.

55 posted on 11/19/2013 4:25:20 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter; Reo; metmom; daniel1212; GarySpFc; CynicalBear; Gamecock
I've been curious as to why Catholics believe they ingest His Body and Blood, yet they make no mention of why they don't light up like glow-worms at night."THen spake Jesus again unto them, saying, "I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life." (John 8:12). Now THAT would be an argument they could PROVE happened, every night they partake of the Eucharist. WHy is one literal and the other figurative? Maybe because they are BOTH figurative??
58 posted on 11/19/2013 4:34:10 PM PST by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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