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To: Bill Russell

Yep, history is fun. For example, the Roman Catholic Church opposed religious freedom right up to Vatican II (the same Vatican II routinely decried by FR traditionalists and closet sedevacantists), even to the point of censoring Catholic commentators advocating religious freedom and forbidding Catholics from reading Protestant Bibles. So it seems Bellarmine’s treatise fell upon deaf ears within his own church. What’s that old saying about a prophet and his own country?


21 posted on 11/12/2013 4:39:21 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I disagree with your statements on the Church opposing religious freedom and forbidding the reading of Protestant Bibles. Unfortunately, peeling back all the layers of the “onion” to properly explain and discuss those issues with facts, and not hearsay, is probably beyond the levels of effort we are both willing to put into the discussion right now.


70 posted on 11/12/2013 7:10:22 PM PST by Bill Russell
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To: RegulatorCountry; Bill Russell
Yep, history is fun. For example, the Roman Catholic Church opposed religious freedom right up to Vatican II (the same Vatican II routinely decried by FR traditionalists and closet sedevacantists), even to the point of censoring Catholic commentators advocating religious freedom and forbidding Catholics from reading Protestant Bibles. So it seems Bellarmine’s treatise fell upon deaf ears within his own church. What’s that old saying about a prophet and his own country?

Thanks for stating this. That Bellarmine was a Roman Catholic and wrote about the ideas he had concerning a just government, and Thomas Jefferson possibly using some of these ideas as inspiration for the founding documents he helped create, does not necessarily make those documents "uniquely Catholic".

166 posted on 11/13/2013 8:51:41 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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