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To: Stingray
The “catholic” church founded by Christ isn’t represented solely by the Roman sect of it, neither is the Pope the “catholic” church’s authority over it. Christ is the head of His church: not the Pope.

Yes, Christ is the Head of His Church.

So why would this fact diminish the authority of His Church?

Jesus said, "If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector."

From this simple statement, important conclusions necessarily follow.

Christ's Church existed in His time.

Christ's Church was visible.

Christ's Church had teaching authority EQUAL to Christ's, since Christ could have said, "if he will not listen to Me."

Christ's Church must have a unified body of doctrine, if it teaches with the Authority of Christ.

Christ said that "the gates of hell" would not prevail against His Church. Christ's Church must still exist today.

Only the Orthodox and Catholic Churches can trace their origin to Apostolic times.

284 posted on 11/12/2013 10:16:27 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“Only the Orthodox and Catholic Churches can trace their origin to Apostolic times.”

Tradition is not truth or integrity. It is tradition. The RCC has shown itself throughout history to be bereft of both, regardless of its much heralded, self-proclaimed tradition.

Might be a good idea to remember that.


285 posted on 11/12/2013 11:26:17 PM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Jesus said, “If he will not listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector.”

Got a verse for that, or should we take your sect’s word for it?


286 posted on 11/12/2013 11:27:30 PM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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