“Most are at some kind of peace with Vatican II...”
That’s really scary.
And most, like myself, generally agree that the abuses of the liturgy that you and I enumerated are intolerable. That is even scarier, isn’t it?
That is, I think, — looping back to my original statements, — because Vatican II was a reaction against modernism rather than itself a conduit of modernism. It just wasn’t successful at that. The consensus is, it seems, that Vatican II needs to be itself reformed and re-studied, but not overturned altogether.