Posted on 11/05/2013 8:45:24 AM PST by Alex Murphy
Early in the morning of November 5, 1605, King James I of England learns that a plot to explode the Parliament building has been foiled, hours before he was scheduled to sit with the rest of the British government in a general parliamentary session.
At about midnight on the night of November 4-5, Sir Thomas Knyvet, a justice of the peace, found Guy Fawkes lurking in a cellar under the Parliament building and ordered the premises searched. Some 20 barrels of gunpowder were found, and Fawkes was taken into custody. During a torture session on the rack, Fawkes revealed that he was a participant in an English Catholic conspiracy to annihilate England's Protestant government and replace it with Catholic leadership.
What became known as the Gunpowder Plot was organised by Robert Catesby, an English Catholic whose father had been persecuted by Queen Elizabeth I for refusing to conform to the Church of England. Guy Fawkes had converted to Catholicism, and his religious zeal led him to fight in the Spanish army in the Netherlands. Catesby and the handful of other plotters rented a cellar that extended under Parliament, and Fawkes planted the gunpowder there, hiding the barrels under coal and wood.
As the November 5 meeting of Parliament approached, Catesby enlisted more English Catholics into the conspiracy, and one of these, Francis Tresham, warned his Catholic brother-in-law Lord Monteagle not to attend Parliament that day. Monteagle alerted the government, and hours before the attack was to have taken place Fawkes and the explosives were found. By torturing Fawkes, King James' government learned of the identities of his co-conspirators. During the next few weeks, English authorities killed or captured all the plotters and put the survivors on trial, along with a few innocent English Catholics.
Guy Fawkes himself was sentenced, along with the other surviving chief conspirators, to be hanged, drawn, and quartered in London. Moments before the start of his gruesome execution, on January 31, 1606, he jumped from a ladder while climbing to the hanging platform, breaking his neck and dying instantly.
In 1606, Parliament established November 5 as a day of public thanksgiving. Today, Guy Fawkes Day is celebrated across Great Britain every year on November 5 in remembrance of the Gunpowder Plot. As dusk falls, villagers and city dwellers across Britain light bonfires, set off fireworks, and burn effigies of Guy Fawkes, celebrating his failure to blow Parliament and James I to kingdom come.
Remember, remember the 5th of November.....
V for Vendetta...: } -
Now that is funny!
Thus Always to Tyrants
“During a torture session on the rack, Fawkes revealed that he was a participant in an English Catholic conspiracy to annihilate England’s Protestant government and replace it with Catholic leadership”
But, I was told by progressives that torture NEVER resulted in reliable information.
Then why has it been used throughout history if it did not work?
Thomas Hardy’s in the opening chapters of “Return of the Native” uses the bonfires for Guy Fawkes Day to add to the romantic tension of Eustacia Vye meeting her clandestine lover Damon Wildeve.
And just in case you did not get the memo, the Treaty of Wesphalia ended the Catholic-Protestant wars in 1648 which among its basic points were to allow Catholics where they were the minority and Lutherans and Calvinist where they were the minority to practice their religion in private at will and to be able to attend public worship at set times during the day. The Church of England, for whatever reason, did not sign the Treaty? Of course as the article states, the persecution of Catholics started well before the Fawkes plot, that is, Certain Catholics would not recognize the Church of England and the King as head of the Church. Of course, this is what got THomas Moore, and others, killed over 100 years before setting off a chain of events that continued till the early 1600’s.
So Alex: When are you as the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades here going to call for a declaration of war on the FR Catholics and negate the Treaty of Westphalia?
If so, where shall go to do battle? Somewhere in the middle of the US so we can all get there?
I am sure if a declaration of war by you is called, you and the FR Protestant brigades will honor the just War Principles laid out by the great Catholic Theologians, Saint Augustine and Saint Thomas Aquinas that is, among other things, direct attacks on non combatants is forbidden, prisoners of war will be treated justly, etc, etc.
Thanks for the new tagline!
Alex Murphy:
Hey, your welcome. You most certainly have earned it. Heck, from my reading of your post, I think you have the potential to match maybe Erwin Rommel’s Afrika Corp, or Stonewall Jackson’s Corp as part of Lee’s Army of N. Virginia, as a Fighting Unit!!!!.
Sorry Alex, but I will reserve Patton’s 3rd Army for myself. I would give you that one!
edit, I meant “I would not give you that one”
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Remind us again, how many divisions does the pope have?
(there's little sense in jones'en for the good 'old days)
If so, where shall go to do battle? Somewhere in the middle of the US so we can all get there?
Ah, so t'will be close at hand.
Thanks for reminding me. I haven't picked up any 7.62x39 in quite a while.
BlueDragon:
Well, he doesn’t have any, as Stalin rhetorically asked. At least, not divisions of this world, but, maybe Pope John Paul II had a few spiritual divisions with Michael the Archangel leading the charge against communism in the East.
Back to my earlier post, no, I will hold to the Treaty of Westphalia and will only fight a defensive war, for as GK Chesterton wrote, the Catholic CHristian only fights to defend what is behind him, not what is in front of him. So if Alex agrees to not declare war, maybe a few rhetorical skirmishes, “allegorically speaking of course”, given that I am one of those Patristic types who believes in the 4 modes of scripture, Literal, “Allegorical”, Moral and anagogical would not be to bad
Nothing but a criminal.
That way, I can conserve ammo. I mean...you're all for
being conservative, aren't you?
And why not, since that is one of the splendid locales which
God goes to take vacation...
LOL I made no such promise before, and I make no such promise now, at least not until you stop beating your wife!
Alex Murphy:
Well played! good to see you do have a sense of humor!.
Now, Me a wife beater, come on Alex, I am a Catholic, not a Mohammedan!!! plus my wife might kick my rear end, in fact, when we got married, she told me at the front of the Church before Fr.... that if I screw up, she would Kill me. Well, I am still here so I guess I haven’t screwed up.
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