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Mormons Being Proselyted [Sister Wives reality TV show depicts 'double standard' 'tude among Lds]
WheatAndTares.org ^ | Nov. 4, 2013 | Mormon Heretic

Posted on 11/04/2013 4:05:42 PM PST by Colofornian

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To: Elsie
How many MORMONs are going to miss Heaven because they do NOT follow the Eternal Covenant of POLYGAMY; found in MormonISM's scripture: D&C 132??

???? I would assume that you would think more highly of those that don't invest in polygamy. Many Christian religious doctrines have all sorts of unnecessary and contrary-to-the-Bible requirements that will have no effect on Salvation.

BTW - Good Morning!

21 posted on 11/08/2013 4:39:16 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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I would assume that you would think more highly of those that don't invest in polygamy.

Assume anything you wish; but I am wondering WHY you do NOT address what YOUR chosen religion has published, taught, believe, now fail to obey.

22 posted on 11/08/2013 4:46:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: trebb
Many Christian religious doctrines have all sorts of unnecessary and contrary-to-the-Bible requirements that will have no effect on Salvation.

Salvation?

Unneeded stuff?


What Joseph Smith Means to Us  (From: various sources )

 
 
 

"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321
 
 
 
 
"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."
- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88
 
 
 
 
"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"
- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)
There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"
- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190
 
 
 
 
"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."
- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155
 
 
 
 
"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"
- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670


They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.
He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.
He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.
As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.
Who has made this so?
Have I?
Have this people?
Have the world?
No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.
If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.
If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.
Can you pass without his inspection?
No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.
In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.
They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?
They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
Brigham Young,

--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224


23 posted on 11/08/2013 4:49:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Assume anything you wish; but I am wondering WHY you do NOT address what YOUR chosen religion has published, taught, believe, now fail to obey.

After being raised Catholic, I found something lacking - so much doctrine and other abstractions that I wasn't being fed the real meat of the message. Became non-denominational and found that the Bible itself has everything one needs to know to become a servant of Christ. If you want to know what I believe, read the Bible and concentrate on the New Testament.

24 posted on 11/08/2013 4:56:58 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Elsie
Salvation? Unneeded stuff?

Yep - The Bible is the Word of God as He inspired the story. Religions are creations of men and there are over 30,000 sects of Christianity that all have their own spins on what is needed/not needed.

25 posted on 11/08/2013 4:59:29 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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If you want to know what I believe, read the Bible and concentrate on the New Testament.

Are you trying to say you are NOT a MORMON??

26 posted on 11/08/2013 6:23:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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...there are over 30,000 sects of Christianity...

STILL retaining that Catholic training I see...

27 posted on 11/08/2013 6:24:30 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Are you trying to say you are NOT a MORMON??

Never have been a Mormon or had any affiliation. Grew up Catholic and decided to go non-denominational to stay away from the "complexities" of religion and to stick with the Bible as my guide.

28 posted on 11/09/2013 1:51:19 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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Never have been a Mormon or had any affiliation. Grew up Catholic and decided to go non-denominational to stay away from the "complexities" of religion and to stick with the Bible as my guide.

I'm sorry; but your posting history has led me to think you were one.

With the bible as MY guide; I have found that Mormonism is ANTI-biblical in SO many ways.

29 posted on 11/09/2013 3:47:43 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

In other news around the world...

http://www.lds.org/church/news/1150-lds-families-displaced-by-flooding-in-the-philippines?lang=eng


30 posted on 11/09/2013 3:50:04 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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