>> One has relevance (this thread)
It does? Really?
Please explain answering this question, which I *can’t possibly* answer (and neither can *you*, it’s above our pay grade) change in the tiniest way how I must live as a Christian?
I’m not saying it’s not an interesting theological question, and I’m not saying it’s out of line to ask it.
But yes, I *am* saying it’s as irrelevant to my spiritual behavior and outcome as the angels/pinhead question.
All I asked is that how can you, me, MacArthur, anyone, prove who was never saved in the first place and who are still saved, but just merely fallen out of fellowship with Christ?
And you avoided it with an apples to oranges argument -— which was the using of a red herring on your part, too, btw.
Calvinistic and Armenian doctrines are very important to study and inquire into - as to which can be proven with absolute certainty.