And, God bless you... but if you’ve acknowledged Holy Spirit then you already have gone on the road that explains the Christian trinity. I understand that in modern Jewish thought the Holy Spirit is an “attribute” of God. But that wasn’t an “attribute of God” talking to Moses out of that burning bush. That was a person, He conversed with Moses. Attributes don’t act like persons.
And, some earlier, pre-Christian rabbinical thought allowed for a divine son as well, based on scriptural hints that implied a person with divine attributes standing distinct from the Father. That thought was abandoned when Jesus of Nazareth presented himself and clashed with the establishment. The establishment was all that was left (the rest became Christians and peeled off).
What Christians say is, look at this Jesus. This is it! Doo wop! That’s the son! As much a person as that Holy Spirit who talked to Moses!
Thank you for doubling down on nice!
You are mistaken about the ‘Holy Spirit’ (which I’ve come to realize Christians take from the Hebrew phrase “ruakh hakodesh” (holy wind....hey, maybe the Japanese borrow their spirituality from Judaism too?)
And you are mistaken about what credence Judaism gives to a son (of God, G-d forbid, or otherwise.) Our knowledge of the essence of G-d (I believe you used ‘Godhead,’ which is a decent starting point) is vastly different from yours. Our knowledge of His lofty or ‘otherly’ heights and how He connects with, interacts with, and encompasses our ‘lowly’ world is distinct and irreconcilable with your claims.
What Jews say and have done in a literally unbroken chain since Abraham our Father—and OBTW our tradition is deeper—we know that Abraham attended “yeshiva (Torah school)” in the academy of the son and grandson of Noah...what we have done and kept as the “commandments” is precise and perfect. Do you know that we write volumes, splitting hairs, on exactly how to bless “thank” G-d for various different kinds of food that we enjoy in His world—before and after eating— and we do it all to prevent saying G-d’s name(s) in vain or incorrectly? Think of a whole semester of college-level coursework to perfect what you say before and after eating...memorized with song as a child and ‘grown into’ in understanding and personal meaning as an adult. Our “Bible study” is not the same...
The Real Rabbis of Kabbalah (their wives don’t say much...) are men who this very day study and meditate on how G-d’s very “Let there be...” is still creating our world at every moment. Jews know why we have computers when G-d never said ‘let there be computers...” Where did stones come from if G-d didn’t say in the Five Books of Moses “let there be stones too....” We know why and how the 613 commandments, 248 positive and 365 negative, correspond to the bones and major sinews and cartilage of the human body. We study this, each to his own level, but certainly enough to live exactly as we should— albeit with room for and a commandment for constant improvement—and exactly as G-d has ordained for us.
The Torah is unfathomable to non-Jews. How do you know what kind of fringes to tie to the corners of your garments? How do you know what words to “speak of at home and away?” How do you reconcile a Sabbath or not lighting a fire in your tents—unlike the poor Karites who sat in the dark and ate cold food...without Jews and our written and oral Torah? What do you bind as a sign upon your arm and wear as a ‘frontlet’ (or however KJV Bible translates it) between your eyes? It is very easily cast away by anyone— now or at the turbulent time of the Roman destruction and expulsion— to cast away as “un-keepable.” G-d forbid. We keep the Torah exactly as we should and that includes waiting for Moshiach every single day. He’s coming tonight. And if he doesn’t, G-d forbid, then he’s coming before I wake up. A Jew lives on a consciousness that a commandment-shunning co-coreligionist can’t understand.
Dude— the good news is— you don’t have to keep to what I do... Just 7: http://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/380332/jewish/The-Mitzvot-of-Non-Jews.htm
Why oh why (I know you have a retort but I tell you it’s oozing with the emotions and sentiments that existed at the time of the progenitors of Christianity) and who oh who would believe in a G-d that packs up and leaves, nullifying His words that He spoke to His people? Let My people go so that they shall serve Me on this mountain. Who would leave this team? (Insert your own In-it-to-win-it motto here.) The original post is about 5000+ rabbis who are in it to end the exile (in other translations, the exile of the Holy Spirit, but I won’t entertain your dogma of what that could entail) and who train their children almost militaristic-ly to fight G-d’s war (against the lack of knowledge of Him, revealing Him in the world.) WE LOVE THIS MISSION. I’m taking my own time from today’s dishes, and toys to put away, and daily portions to study...and the Florida insurance licensing test-—Jew’s gotta make a buck right?.... to post. I love Yiddishkeit (Judaism) and we all love it. You have an image of a Jew of yesteryear. We’re at the end of the ‘gallus’ (exile.)
I hope you’ve enjoyed my musings.... I’m looking for the Jewish Rubio, Paul, and Lee at this time..... (ie, gotta run and end my soap-boxing.)
All the best
Phinneous