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To: Zionist Conspirator

And anyhow, dear pal, what moves you to show up on definitely Christian threads and throw your pitiful little wet blanket in?


29 posted on 11/02/2013 6:02:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Zionist Conspirator

Phew.... lot of eating, praying, diaper changing, shvitzing, napping....and post-sabbatical dishes. I even spent a good, long time cleaning (to the best of my ability and visible spectrum) any possible bugs off of my spinach—in the way of the ancients—with Veggie Wash.

So HiTech, it was a good catch on “pride.” Though on Friday afternoon I thought you were merely referring to my yes, blatant barb and assertion of the Sabbath being Saturday. Now from your subsequent posts I believe you feel all Jews have a pride in being antithetical to Christianity...if I’m right, then you’ll probably also end up being right...

I was momentarily upset about my humble world-dominating posting being invaded, but I’ve done the same to non-Jewish posts in the past, so no harm no foul. AND, good background on Christian beliefs on The Lords Day vs Christian pro-7th-day-Sabbath sects. Good to know.

But like Zionist Conspirator said, it is a stated (mission?**) of Judaism to enlighten the world to monotheism and our individual responsibilities toward G-d Almighty, 613 commandments and their off-shoots (as ordained by the written and oral Torahs given on Mt. Sinai,) and 7 commandments for non-Jews, full stop.

**Not just a mission, but one of the actual commandments—here is one of many, many sites codifying the commandments for which non-Jews (you! :) are responsible: http://templemountcenter.com/Rambam7Commandments.htm

But we are certainly at odds. We will never accept your beliefs or scripture subsequent to our canon and traditions—which are not mere ‘nice-to-do’s. Rather a Jewish tradition has the weight of the written law (as ordained in the written law itself, again, just for Jews, so don’t worry yourself about dancing around the lectern with a Torah scroll in you hands on the day after the ‘Festival of Tabernacles, though you will find no explicit reference to this in the entire Jewish canon—darn perplexing ain’t it!?)

And Jews see your messiah as a heretic and false prophet.

The very best we can hope for is to out-nice each other and show how wonderful the competing dogmas are. Let Moshiach sort it out.

I’m jumping around a bit...sorry.

Re: Chabad— the other posters are correct. We strive to bring Torah-Judaism to every Jew no matter where, and in this day and age, 100% made possible by America, to preach to non-Jews who would formally respond with violence. Preaching the 7 Commandments for non-Jews, mind you, not conversion to Judaism.

It really must drive non-Jews and not-yet-religious Jews batty, by the way. We have rules that guide our lives from morning til night. How we wash our hands, tie our shoes, eat our food, the exact words we say while praying (fear not, beatnik Jews—there is a time for freestyle...) And we doggedly claim it’s all directly from and exactly how G-d wants us to do it— yet you won’t find it in the Torah explicitly, not even in Hebrew! When the heck will we give it all up and see the light? Never, ever. It’s the best. You are right, in part, that G-d is a G-d of joy. (of course, as you implied, of many other things as well.) But we Jews have an actual explicit commandment to be happy! It’s the best I tell ya.

Brief story— two brothers and chassidic masters in their own rights, were in prison. :( One brother was sad. His brother asked him why and he said that because of the waste bucket the prisoners in the cell use, he could not say his prayers since he was in close vicinity to it. When his brother reminded him that to NOT pray when in its presence was ALSO a commandment, he became happy—because he was therefore still doing what G-d wanted of him— and they began to dance. When the guard asked one of the other prisoners why the Jews were so happy, he was told that it was something to do with the waste bucket. “I’ll show them....” said the guard, as he took the bucket away, doubling their joy.

The point is, we have many, many commandments that connect us to G-d. Even non-Jews do (their 7 have their own offshoots.) We would/will never give up the direct connection to the King, G-d forbid. We are chosen (who wouldn’t want to be....) and are G-d’s sons and servants, in that order. We disagree irreconcilably with you. And there’s not much we can do about it, ey?

SO, pride still probably not in check, I carry on, though maybe I’ll just PM my Jew buddies when I see Christian posts with which I disagree. Or maybe not.


30 posted on 11/02/2013 9:24:32 PM PDT by Phinneous
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