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To: StormPrepper; Colofornian
As was said regarding usage of the prefix necro-

to which you replied;

Please allow me to disabuse you of that notion...for you reach for portion of culturally connotative usage (and misuage), rather than the root.

Your statement continued;

which as I have shown above isn't exactly true, but as I also spoke toward, is the culturally derived connotative association, although one perhaps a bit misused by fantasy-genre "hack" paper-back writers, at least a decade or so before Harry Potter came toddling along.

Necro- as in Necromancer http://www.thefreedictionary.com/necromancer

As you said;

but the LDS does "baptize" the dead, by proxy. Hence, necro-baptism [by proxy].

And you also said;

which was not done that I could see (or you may point out which reply# that statement was made, in regards to yourself specifically?), rendering the following;

apparently broken, by your own self.

What was that again, you were saying about soup?

If you like, we could speak about Joseph Smith's "obsessions" and how he could fit the bill for heel, cad, fraud, huckster, swindler, etc? I can bring dictionary of those terms, upon request. Preferably, after we find some agreement upon earned and deserved (after one has done all that they honestly can do?) soup rations. bwahahhaa

Sammy Hagar - Little White Lie (Music Video) WIDESCREEN HQ [this song going out to J.Smith, who's "soup" could never now be cold, since it's most likely ON FIRE]

26 posted on 11/02/2013 9:19:59 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon; StormPrepper; Colofornian
For your discussion, here's a link to information on necro from my favorite Etymology website.
27 posted on 11/02/2013 9:25:43 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: BlueDragon; Colofornian; All
Trying to defend Colofornian's offensiveness by arguing semantics to justify it? ... Really?

Again it's the logical fallacy of guilt by association. It's logically insulting as well as morally corrupt to engage in the practice.

You argue from a single weak point while ignoring the mountain of evidence to the contrary. Your point is convoluted as well. You dig down into the Greek and use part of a single definition and claim victory.

This is cafeteria logic at it's worst. Even the definition you chose uses the word corpse. Simply being baptized in the name of someone that is deceased has no commonality with the dark art of manipulating corpses.

Not to mention the shear silliness of trying to convince us all that the poster in question had no ill intent. Their intent was completely innocuous when ascribing the term necro to Latter-day Saints like me?

[Bluedragon]which as I have shown above isn't exactly true, but as I also spoke toward, is the culturally derived connotative association, although one perhaps a bit misused by fantasy-genre "hack" paper-back writers, at least a decade or so before Harry Potter came toddling along.

The real world definition is well known in literature long before your paperbacks came into existence. And now in film. Just like I said.

The world knows what "necro" means so don't try to spin it.

Necromancy(1972)

Fiction
The final chapter of The Hobbit by J. R. R. Tolkien mentions the White Council driving the Necromancer, a guise of Sauron, from Dol Guldur, his stronghold in Mirkwood.

Anita Blake, main character of the Vampire Hunter series by Laurell K. Hamilton, is a necromancer, and there are numerous other mentions of necromancy.

The Old Kingdom series by Garth Nix is a cycle of novels centered around the practice of necromancy and its influence on the world of the living.

Being ineffective as a means of "reuniting body and soul once death has occurred", necromancy in the Harry Potter series by J. K. Rowling is generally disparaged as "a branch of magic that has never worked." However, practitioners of the Dark Arts contrive to produce "vile substitutions" such as the reanimated corpses known as Inferi.

In the Japanese manga series Shaman King by Hiroyuki Takei, the character Johann Faust VIII is a self-taught necromancer who takes part in the Shaman Fight in order to gain the ability to bring his wife back from the dead.

A necromancer named Doll is featured amongst the core characters of ½ Prince, a series of Taiwanese novels by Yu Wo, later adapted into manhua format by Choi Hong Chong.

Nico di Angelo, a demigod character appearing in the Percy Jackson & the Olympians and The Heroes of Olympus series by Rick Riordan, wields various necromantic powers owing to his paternity by Hades, Greek god of the underworld.

Necromancy is prominent in the Skulduggery Pleasant series by Derek Landy.

Chloe Saunders, main character of the Darkest Powers trilogy by Kelley Armstrong, is a necromancer.

Kore wa Zombie Desu ka?, a series of Japanese light novels by Shinichi Kimura (which has also been adapted into manga and anime formats), features as its protagonist a zombie who was raised from the dead and befriended by a powerful necromancer.

Appearing in a series of short stories and novels by Jonathan L. Howard, the character Johannes Cabal is "a necromancer of some little infamy" who sold his soul in order to gain the ability to commune with and raise the dead.

The fourth installment of The Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel by Michael Scott is entitled The Necromancer. The series, however, employs this term in a broader sense as one of several that refer to characters who are practitioners of magic, though with a darker connotation than the others.



And who can forget: The Necromicon



Film and television
In the Cartoon Network animated series The Venture Bros., Dr. Byron Orpheus is referred to as a "necromancer extraordinaire", although he has been shown to command a broad range of mystical powers. He belongs to the Order of the Triad, a team of occult practitioners, and regularly collaborates with Team Venture.

In the fifth season episode "Just Rewards" of the WB series Angel, vampires Angel and Spike try to put a rogue necromancer named Magnus Hainsley out of commission. Their task is made much harder by the fact that they are both undead and therefore susceptible to Hainsley's power.

In the second season episode "Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things" of the CW series Supernatural, Sam and Dean Winchester are forced to intervene when the teaching assistant to a professor of Ancient Greek uses a necromantic ritual to bring the professor's daughter back to life after she dies in a car accident.

Necromantic rituals conducted by the former occupant of a house are largely to blame for the supernatural forces that plague its current owners in the 2009 horror film The Haunting in Connecticut.

In the fourth season of the HBO series True Blood, antagonist Marnie Stonebrook employs necromancy to cause herself to become possessed by the spirit of Antonia Gavilán de Logroño, a witch who was burned at the stake during the Spanish Inquisition. As she was dying, Antonia used her power to gain control over all nearby vampires and subsequently caused them to walk into the sunlight, killing themselves. Marnie desires the same ability to manipulate vampires like puppets.

In the fourth season episode "Lancelot du Lac" of the BBC series Merlin, Morgana uses necromancy to bring the knight Lancelot back from the dead in order to interfere with the pending marriage of King Arthur and Guinevere, thereby preventing Guinevere from becoming queen. Morgana herself wants to be the sole ruler of Camelot.

In the third season of the FX series American Horror Story: Coven, Misty Day (Lily Rabe) portrays a necromancer. Being persecuted after being discovered by bringing a bird back to life.

Games
In Dungeons & Dragons, wizards can specialize in the school of necromancy and clerics can select death as their sphere or domain. Both accordingly gain access to spells that not only focus on death, decay, and the undead, but also various forms of life force manipulation, enabling them to heal or cause injury, cure or inflict disease, and perform resurrection.

Necromancers are a specific type of magic user in the Palladium Fantasy and Rifts role-playing games from Palladium Books. They wield a number of powers over death and the dead such as acquiring supernatural abilities by ingesting certain organs harvested from corpses and being able to merge severed limbs with their own bodies.

The necromancer is a character class in the video game Diablo II, released by Blizzard Entertainment. They can animate the dead, inflict curses, and use life-draining attacks.

It is also an Undead unit in Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos, and there are named necromancers in World of Warcraft.

In The Battle for Wesnoth, an open source turn-based strategy game, players may advance their units as practitioners of the dark arts to the level of necromancer, thereby gaining "the terrible ability to awaken the dead with false life", among other arcane powers.

Necromancy can be learned by wizards of the School of Death in the massively multiplayer online role-playing game Wizard101 from KingsIsle Entertainment.

The necromancer is available as a profession in the Guild Wars competitive online role-playing game series from NCsoft. Able to drain life energy from their enemies, they also specialize in raising undead minions and casting curses.

In the Dungeon Management game, War for the Overworld, Necromancers appear as a unit which can raise Ghouls and Revenants.

The Character Lezard Valeth, from the video game series Valkyrie Profile, is a Necromancer.



In real world "Necro", "Necromancer", "Necromancy" is all the same.

Oh and I played a "Necro" in Everquest as well. Trying to argue that it just means "dead" is silly.
33 posted on 11/03/2013 6:19:09 AM PST by StormPrepper
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