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Real salvation...not the false phony type!
Facebook ^ | 10/21/13 | fabian

Posted on 10/21/2013 8:04:26 AM PDT by fabian

Have you been searching for the real thing in spirituality and salvation? We hear a lot of talk about it by ministers who are no more saved than the average Joe, sadly. Well, I have begun this FB page to promote the real thing because I have found it myself. I am not talking from theory or rote learning. No! And I want you all to be on that path to real salvation, peace of mind, and being able to fight socialists/ communism and still remain happy! Please give it a like too...if you do like it! Thank you, fabian


TOPICS: Activism; General Discusssion; Moral Issues; Prayer
KEYWORDS: fhu; god; peace; roymasters; salvation; spirituality
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To: fabian

“That makes you a follower of a cult.”

It makes one Christian. Christians believe Christ is Lord and Savior. Just because Roy Masters disagrees doesn’t change that fact.

Roy Masters has the right to develop his own religion but he doesn’t have the power to redefine God.


321 posted on 11/04/2013 5:52:35 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

nope..you guys are the ones redefining God. There is only one God and He is the one Jesus prayed to and spoke to on the cross for all to hear. Fact.


322 posted on 11/04/2013 5:56:14 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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Redefining God
http://rightfromtheheart.org/devo/2123

“...The best way to define God is through a man. His name is Jesus. He is God’s ultimate revelation of Himself.

How do you understand Jesus? The most authoritative Word is the Bible. Scripture gives us the complete and full picture of Jesus. Otherwise, it’s just somebody’s opinion.

John 1:14 ... “And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.”

So how do you define God? Get to know the Jesus of Scripture. ...”


323 posted on 11/04/2013 6:05:28 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: fabian

That is the reason Roy Masters doesn’t want his followers to read our study the Bible. You would realize his religion isn’t Christian.

That would deny his power to define his own reality for himself and his followers. Not good for sales.


324 posted on 11/04/2013 6:08:45 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: fabian

How to recognize a cult
http://www.letusreason.org/cults.htm

“1. Almost all cults deny the Apostles creed which consists of the virgin birth, deity of Christ, his resurrection, his atonement on the cross nd 2nd coming.

2. They have tendency to pronounce other groups as apostate and they alone have the truth.

3. They devalue or deny the deity of Christ. ...


326 posted on 11/04/2013 6:43:07 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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... 4. They have extra sources of biblical revelation they may use Gods word with something else to interpret it

5. They have salvation by works -either denying God’s grace or add performance. It will not always be easy to spot. ...


327 posted on 11/04/2013 6:47:55 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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... The following are basic patterns, or characteristics, found in almost all cults that one can easily identify:

Additions - Cults add to the Word of God by having additional writings they call scripture, or by saying that only the Bible is God’s Word but you cannot understand it without their interpretation from their own teachers or books. The Bible is discouraged to be read alone.

Subtraction - Cults subtract from the Person of Jesus by saying he is something less than Eternal Deity. Or they will add their own teacher as deity. 

Multiplication - Every false religion has works as part of their system of salvation. They also usually specify what works must be performed at a certain level for acceptance to their group and God.


328 posted on 11/04/2013 6:49:43 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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... Divisive - Cults have people choose by dividing a person’s loyalty. It’s God through their leadership by claiming to be the only Spokesman or group for God. They also require obedience to their leadership to be in right standing with God. They do not tolerate another’s differing opinions and it is looked upon as being divisive or of the enemy.”


329 posted on 11/04/2013 6:51:49 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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“Another lie. Roy loves the bible and reads form it occasionally. It is amazing hoe many errors of fact can be put on this thread without any qualms about it whatsoever. Stunning.”

But Roy Masters teaches the Bible is not enough... You must deprogram through his “be still” exercise to be saved. Anything else is false, phony. Anyone who doesn’t believe him is an apostate Christian and a liar.


330 posted on 11/04/2013 6:56:47 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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"Another lie. Roy loves the bible and reads form it occasionally"

No doubt the captain of the Titanic occasionally looked at pictures of icebergs.

331 posted on 11/04/2013 7:03:56 PM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: fabian

I wish I saw this earlier. It’s very well written, especially the checklist on page 2.

Recognizing Cults
http://www.the-gospel.org/stdy_hrmntcs/cults.php


332 posted on 11/04/2013 7:22:45 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: mitch5501

Roy Masters also said the Bible is just words, and that he could take it to the bathroom and use it as toilet paper.


333 posted on 11/04/2013 7:26:58 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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not at all..you are apostate because you twist and turn and made Jesus God, rather than God’s son. If you keep evading and not honestly addressing me, you are making yourself looks foolish. And of course the bible is not enough! Daaaa! It is the holy spirit that saves through Jesus, not the bible! Omg...


334 posted on 11/04/2013 7:43:04 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: mitch5501
their they're
336 posted on 11/04/2013 7:49:36 PM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: fabian
you are apostate...you keep evading and not honestly addressing me, you are making yourself looks foolish.

This is your third and final warning. Discuss the issues, do not make it personal. Discuss the message, not the messenger.
337 posted on 11/04/2013 7:50:32 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: fabian

“not at all..you are apostate because you twist and turn and made Jesus God, rather than God’s son. If you keep evading and not honestly addressing me, you are making yourself looks foolish. And of course the bible is not enough! Daaaa! It is the holy spirit that saves through Jesus, not the bible! Omg...”

Roy Masters confuses what Christians believe concerning the nature of God.

What is the Trinity?
http://carm.org/what-trinity


338 posted on 11/04/2013 8:02:37 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: mitch5501

Roy Masters and the Foundation of Human Understanding believe:

- The Bible is just words
- prayers with words aren’t true prayers
- you must pray in silence while constantly examining your thoughts and feelings (the Be Still exercise)
- you must do the Be Still exercise... It’s the fast track to salvation
- when you do it correctly, you become sinless
- Jesus Christ is not the divine Savior
- being saved means being a good person without expectation of any reward
- whoever disagrees is a false, phony Christian, a liar and apostate
- if everyone does what Roy Masters directs, we can save our country


339 posted on 11/04/2013 8:16:11 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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I found more writings from Dr. Lawrence Wilson, a follower of Roy Masters. I’m not knocking his beliefs, but point out these are not Christian beliefs.

Hypnosis and Brainwashing
http://www.drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/HYPNOSIS.htm


340 posted on 11/04/2013 8:23:00 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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