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To: Hoodat
Jesus used the term ‘born again’ on but one occasion, and in that instance it was not in reference to salvation. Just saying.

Jesus said born "from above" He never said born "again."

363 posted on 10/21/2013 8:29:47 AM PDT by verga (Si hoc legere scis, nimium eruditionis)
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To: verga
That would depend on which translation you are using. The Amplified (aka the long-winded version) says both 'anew' and 'from above'. But I think I like the way the Message says it the best:

Jesus said, “You’re absolutely right. Take it from me: Unless a person is born from above, it’s not possible to see what I’m pointing to—to God’s kingdom.”

John 3:3

I think I like 'born from above' better because I believe the term 'born again' has been abused over the years. Thanks for pointing that out.

365 posted on 10/21/2013 8:37:06 AM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: verga
Jesus said born "from above" He never said born "again."

I believe "born from above" is more accurate. However, even the footnotes of the Catholic NABRE say either "born again" or "born from above" is accurate. Saying "born from above" is not changing the meaning of the passage at all. As a matter of fact, some of the egg heads who dive into the Greek a lot more than we all do, some of them even use "begotton from above." I like that because like you I am Pro-Life and life begins at conception. The actual time a father 'begets' the child. So born from above is awesome and I like it because it is more accurate IMO.

Not only the Catholic NABRE has "born from above" but us dirty nasty Prots (/s) have the folks at Logos who published the Lexham English Bible (LEB). They tried to make that Bible as much a mechanical translation as possible and also came up with "born from above."

413 posted on 10/21/2013 2:34:48 PM PDT by redleghunter
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