I have yet to see anyone who subscribes to OSAS advocate all manner of sin without restraint.
The only time that comes up is in accusations against the doctrine to try to discredit it.
But we cannot, every day, watch porn, get drunk, get stoned, cheat on our spouse, overcharge our customers, chase strange flesh (homosexuality, pedophilia), falsely accuse others or commit other sins and assume God’s automatic forgiveness.
Nobody ever said we could. Again, a fallacy presented as fact in a bid to discredit OSAS.
John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
John 10:25-30 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father's name bear witness about me, but you do not believe because you are not among my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. I and the Father are one.”
Ephesians 1:13-14 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Colossians 1:13-14 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
2 Corinthians 1:21-22 And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
2 Corinthians 5:4-8 For while we are still in this tent, we groan, being burdened—not that we would be unclothed, but that we would be further clothed, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who has given us the Spirit as a guarantee. So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.
Sadly, I have.
btw, I find John 5:24 fascinating since it does not say we have to believe in Jesus in order to have eternal life. Just saying. . .
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That’s exactly right...Christians, all Christians, battle with sin in their life. If they believe otherwise then I would truly question if they’re Christian to begin with.
I do believe in the sanctity of the believer.
They usually do not, as the " in the classic Calvinistic TULIP doctrine means the saints will persevere to die in faith at the end, not as an impenitent sinner.
However, the camp that holds that faith in the Lord's promise of eternal life saves one regardless of what they do is growing, as if faith in the Lord Jesus is valid even if it does not effect one's life.
I even know a brother in a Fund Bap. church that, while teaching and exampling a holy standard, tells souls they can be perfect with God no matter what they do wrong, as long as they believe in Jesus and His promise to give them eternal life. But which "belief" that allows one to call himself a Christian not matter what he does or is doing wrong is a contradiction of what it means to Scripturally believe.
Which effects characteristic "obedience of faith'," including repentance when convicted of not obeying God. King David sinned grievously, but repented the moment he was fingered by God.
Under salvation "no matter what you do wrong" practicing adulterers who yet profess faith in Christ are saved, yet paradoxically, those who who believe a real believer is only those who have "things which accompany salvation," (Heb. 6:9) and thus God chastises believer as needed so that they are "not condemned with the rest of the world" (1Cor. 11:32) and that believers can depart from the living God - not ultimately holding the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end, but drawing back in unbelief, (Hebrews 3:12,14; 10:38) falling from grace and making Christ of none effect, to profit them nothing, (Gal. 5:1-4) all of which Scripture warns believers against - are said to be lost due to holding that belief, no matter hoe much they manifest fruits of regeneration.
Then you have those who believe any who struggle against a besetting sin such as cigarettes. have lost their salvation (though sins of the heart may not be mentioned).
At the least, both camps should be able to acknowledge that we need to believe that Christ not only redeems us, but works to preserve them, while Scripture does contain the aforementioned warnings.
And that Catholics who believe they were justified due to ue to the interior holiness one gains (usually) thru infant sprinkling in recognition of proxy faith, and which salvation by merit (usually) ends with enduring suffering in purgatory to become good enough to enter Heaven, are not in danger of losing salvation, as you cannot lose what you never had, but need salvation.
The only folks who will use that argument are the "I'm going to work my way to heaven crowd", Somehow the role the indwelling Holy Spirit plays is forgotten.
You have rightly described the hatred for sin that believers who recognize salvation by grace, alone, have. It is repugnant and disturbing to know with Paul that we of all people should know better and do better. We realize that there is just still something at work in our flesh which will not die until the body dies. We realize the precious blood spilled for us should be so significant, so important that it should shame us into complete avoidance of all sin. Yet, we still see the evil at work in us. (Rom 7).
But, the view this OP represents holds perhaps a greater danger. And, it is so subtle as to rarely be considered. That is, when one says, "...we cannot, every day,...or commit other sins and assume God's automatic forgiveness." it belies the fact the person may believe they are not actually doing just that. They may not realize that their own lives are saturated, immersed in sin at every moment.
They are under the false assumption that if they are not physically committing sin, or if they are actively resisting sin, this is the equivalent to righteousness. But, nothing could be further from the truth. The fact that their minds touch on adultery, drunkeness, false accusations, gossip, even momentarily renders them just as guilty as the person engaging in these acts. The very fact they must "resist" sin proves they are loaded with the appetite for it. This is not righteousness and deserves the same death as commiting it. They may not produce the same "death" on those around them as those who do commit them physically, but even the reomotest thought of it, the slightest whiff of it, the smallest of passing idea is just as evil as the act...so says Jesus.
Such shortsightedness is what Paul is pointing out in Romans 1 & 2, rendering every man/woman guilty, at all moments. There is no righteousness in men. There is no hope in men. Unless God, by His free grace, grants faith, and forgives, there is no hope. Unless He clothes us Jesus' righteousness, there is nothing to adopt. Once God opens eyes and rescues a man by His divine choice, that man/woman is safe because of Him...not themselves.
Paul's point is not "once saved, always saved." (although this is true). His point is the fact that when one is saved BY GOD, God does not change His mind. The rescue is simply a product of His own power and promise. It is no longer in the hands of the man/woman. They could not get themselves into salvation; they cannot get themselves out.
To those on the outside of this understanding, this may seem like a "free ticket" to sin. But, they do not realize they are holding a much more dangerous view..."at least I do not sin like those people". Oh, yes, you do...all the time. Now what?
Anyone who thinks to make that accusation really needs to examine their relationship with Jesus and understand that a person who has truly been saved and indwelt by the Holy Spirit wouldn’t even conceive of sinning without a guilty conscience and seeking forgiveness and change.