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To: boatbums; metmom; Elsie
He NEVER said we must be "born again of water and the Spirit"

unless a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God (John 3:3)

Nicodemus is perplexed and Jesus explains:

unless a man be born of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (Verse 5, "again" omitted)
Note that neither water nor spirit are womb, of which Nicodemus inquired. Water and spirit are that second birth, baptism.
409 posted on 10/25/2013 5:59:37 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
Nicodemus is perplexed and Jesus explains:

unless a man be born of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (Verse 5, "again" omitted) Note that neither water nor spirit are womb, of which Nicodemus inquired. Water and spirit are that second birth, baptism.

Yet, YOU were the one who added the word "again" - claiming Jerome said it so it was okay. Here's your comment along with the usual snide aside we've come to expect:

    Jesus answered, and said to him: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. [4] Nicodemus saith to him: How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter a second time into his mother' s womb, and be born again? [5] Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (John 3)
    Read the Holy Bible every once in a while, then offer your opinions of what is and what isn't in it.

Have you forgotten that THAT was the point being argued? Jesus had to have been speaking of born of water - meaning the "flesh gives birth to flesh" - as a physical human birth, since He said so the very next verse, and NOT your erroneous insistence that He said "born again of water". If this is your way a conceding you were wrong, I accept.

419 posted on 10/25/2013 11:54:21 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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