Posted on 10/19/2013 8:50:26 PM PDT by jodyel
I am so glad that you have shown your delight in your life in responding to this general commandment of Jesus. For the general information of all, here are the recorded commands that Christ gave to His disciple, and hence to you and me. Here they are:
What are 49 Ways to Love God and Others? The theme of all Scripture is to love God with all of our hearts and to love one another. (See Matthew 22:40 and John 13:34.)
1.RepentMatthew 4:17Humility
2.Follow MeMatthew 4:19Meekness
3.RejoiceMatthew 5:12Joyfulness
4.Let Your Light ShineMatthew 5:16Generosity
5.Honor Gods LawMatthew 5:1718Love
6.Be ReconciledMatthew 5:2425Responsibility
7.Do Not Commit AdulteryMatthew 5:2930Self-Control
8.Keep Your WordMatthew 5:37Truthfulness
9.Go the Second MileMatthew 5:3842Deference
10.Love Your EnemiesMatthew 5:44Creativity
11.Be PerfectMatthew 5:48Sincerity
12.Practice Secret DisciplinesMatthew 6:118Faith
13.Lay Up TreasuresMatthew 6:1921Thriftiness
14.Seek Gods KingdomMatthew 6:33Initiative
15.Judge NotMatthew 7:1Discernment
16.Do Not Cast PearlsMatthew 7:6Discretion
17.Ask, Seek, and KnockMatthew 7:78Resourcefulness
18.Do Unto OthersMatthew 7:12Sensitivity
19.Choose the Narrow WayMatthew 7:1314Decisiveness
20.Beware of False ProphetsMatthew 7:15Alertness
21.Pray For LaborersMatthew 9:38Compassion
22.Be Wise as SerpentsMatthew 10:16Wisdom
23.Fear God, Not ManMatthew 10:26Boldness
24.Hear Gods VoiceMatthew 11:15Attentiveness
25.Take My YokeMatthew 11:29Obedience
26.Honor Your ParentsMatthew 15:4Honor/Reverence
27.Beware of LeavenMatthew 16:6Virtue
28.Deny YourselfLuke 9:23Determination
29.Despise Not Little OnesMatthew 18:10Tolerance
30.Go to OffendersMatthew 18:15Justice
31.Beware of CovetousnessLuke 12:15Contentment
32.Forgive OffendersMatthew 18:2122Forgiveness
33.Honor MarriageMatthew 19:6Loyalty
34.Be a ServantMatthew 20:2628Availability
35.Be a House of PrayerMatthew 21:13Persuasiveness
36.Ask in FaithMatthew 21:2122Patience
37.Bring in the PoorLuke 14:1214Hospitality
38.Render to CaesarMatthew 22:1921Gratefulness
39.Love the LordMatthew 22:3738Enthusiasm
40.Love Your NeighborMatthew 22:39Gentleness
41.Await My ReturnMatthew 24:4244Punctuality
42.Take, Eat, and DrinkMatthew 26:2627Thoroughness
43.Be Born AgainJohn 3:7Security
44.Keep My CommandmentsJohn 14:15Diligence
45.Watch and PrayMatthew 26:41Endurance
46.Feed My SheepJohn 21:1516Dependability
47.Baptize My DisciplesMatthew 28:19Cautiousness
48.Receive Gods PowerLuke 24:49Orderliness
49.Make DisciplesMatthew 28:20Flexibility
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Please forgive me for being so tardy on this response --
You did, as it is clear you have been trolling for bites throughout this whole topic, seeking to engage and contradict non-Romanists who have defended The Faith, though thy proceeded from the basis of the wholly adequate platform of Scripture alone, to effectively logically and spiritually confute your weak and insupportable claims. I will not repeat what has already here been demonstrated under this topic headline.
I am evangelizing you.
No, you are not trying to convert me (and others); you are trying to pervert me through offering another gospel of a different kind (heteron), by another spirit of a different kind (heteron), by presenting me another Jesus of the same kind (allon), yes, but still another (allon) Jesus, whom you indicate cannot have said to a Devilish approach "It stands written (by Moses penning down the spoken inspired sayings hremati of The Jehovah/preincarnate Jesus, The God)(perfect tense, written as more permanent than a lead stylus accenting the engraving of His Words in a solid rock=--Job 19:24--as a completed action with abiding results, originallly written once and or all in Deuteronomy 8:3), 'Man (anthropos, a human being, as a metonymy for all mankind, thus singular masculine to include also females) doth not live (future tense, middle deponent voice, indicative, 3rd person singular)(himself gain life by inference, physically ingesting) by (epi, upon or idiomatically as a consequence of or because of) the bread loaf (literal food physically and figurative-literal token of Christ's Passion spiritually) only, but (also) by (preposition epi again) each-and-every word (all the words, individually and collectively, properly interpreted; every hrema saying) that proceedeth (present tense, a still-ongoing process reinstituted in John Baptist after God's 400-year silence to the Jews, up until the time of John Theologian's death; that poureth out) of (prep. dia with genitive, of/through) God's (genitive, Jehovah/Jesus/Risen Christ's) mouth (anarthrous, genitive, singular, neuter).'
The devil tried to corrupt Jesus through his adroitness in fatally modifying Scripture by adding one word to Psalm 91:11-12 passage, thus misdirecting its meaning (as you have done previously in this discourse). I'm not buying, and encourage others also, to disregard your false claims based on supposed authoritativeness of the Roman Church which cast into question the plain sense of the Holy Scripture.
On the title page of my Bible(s) I have placed my personal reminder of the utter reliability of Scripture alone:
Nothing more! Rev. 22:18, Prov. 30:5, 6
Nothing less! Rev. 22:19, Deut. 8:3
Nothing else: Gal. 1:8, Is. 8:20, 2 Cor. 11:3-4
And you resist.
I am absolutely standing meek toward the right, but rebellious toward the wrong.
And who are you, that seeks to assert power over me to insist against my will that I accept you poor catechistic crutch rather than Scriptural admonishment to correct and control me? If you want unity, start to begin to comply with a correct interpretation of the Holy Scripture. In this note, you have supplied not one sound Scriptural basis for your claims. That leaves me no authority to even wish you a good day. (2Jn. 8-11)
I stick with the Immersionists, constantly existing throughout the ages, and persecuted to to death by the Romanist creators of a sacral society imitating a dead Judaizing sacral society perpetrating these murderous auto da fes and Bible-burnings. I stand with the New Testament people of the Way, titled "Christian" in Antioch of Syria; the Montanists, Novations, Paterins, Purists, Cathari, Donatists, Paulicians, Arnoldists, Henricians, Albigensians, Waldensians, Anabaptists, Baptists, and "Plymouth brethren" whose blood was shed on the trail from the Ascension of Chist Jesus from the beginning until now by inquisitions; they rejected the seducing of nominal christians into Platonism on the one hand and into the state on the other hand by the unauthorized sacral society. IMHO
We cannot talk until you come to grips with your fatally weak apology and cling to the sufficient Holy Scripture for salvation and exploring of the Holy Faith, as well as abandoning tradition of fallible patristics, logic without spiritual sense, and personal experiences, as buttressing arguments. Amen. Maran atha.
There's no evidence of it on FR!!!
I am familiar with the Catholic behavior of making an appearance of scriptural debate while in fact deflectinbg the scriptural argument against the additions of Catholicism.
Ironically, for all Catholics spew about doing good works in addition to faith to earn salvation, that still doesn’t leave non-Catholic Christians out in the cold as anyone who has true faith WILL have good works.
We don’t add them to our intellectual assent in the vain thinking that intellectual assent + good works = saving faith.
Anyone with true saving faith has died to self and is a new creature in Christ, has the Holy Spirit living in them to will and to do according to God’s good pleasure.
*Good works* naturally flow from the life of the believer as the result and evidence of the transforming work of the Holy Spirit in our lives.
BECAUSE??
Likewise...
...that works of the law, especially Catholic Law, do not save, because they are not what the New Testament consistently calls "requirements."
Satan’s oldest tactic.
“Did God REALLY say.....?”
Get people to question the authority of God and His word.
Once they do that, they’re easy pickings. They’ll swallow any lie.
Very good point, in fact, one of the best. Sort of forgotten in this discourse up til now, eh?
A clear case of carnal versus spiritual.
Without quibbling with the modernistic translation, yeah, when something is to be our way of life, that means necessary. In verse 9, it is grace, not salvation that is not a result of works, and indeed, by grace alone we are saved.
you should study the Reformers
Good grief, for what? I am interested int he Church Christ founded, not in inventions of some German semiliterate monks 1500 years later. No sale, thanks. I know enough of Protestant phony theology to despise it.
One can never do enough "good works" to save oneself
No one says we can. By we should "walk in them" nonetheless through faith, and by Grace, we may obtain salvation if we do.
We will either love Him, or we won't.
Right. We love -- we do works of love. We don't -- we invent "sola fide" theologies instead.
Continuing in the faith however, shall be The Way for "good works" to at all come about
That is roughly accurate:
with fear and trembling work out your salvation. For it is God who worketh in you, both to will and to accomplish, according to his good will. (Phil. 2:12-13)
But why then do you contradict this by insisting that works are not necessary? God is not going to ask you anything unnecessary.
I am happy though you now appear to understand the distinction between salvific good works and sundry ceremonial, boastful, for-wages works of certain Pauline passages in Galatians and the Romans.
The Catechism indeed allows for salvation of Muslims, Jews and even Atheists; surely if a Protestant “honor Sacred Scripture, taking it as a norm of belief and a pattern of life, and who show a sincere zeal” he may be saved; but not a Protestant who only reads the Holy Scripture to deny it and deny Christ’s Holy Church. Necessary for this condition on non-Catholic bliss is the desire to unite with the Church. When I see such desire in a Protestant, I help him along with this conversion, for he cannot stay Protestant forever and be saved. A quick conversation usually reveals who is interested in salvation and who is not.
Shove off, troll.
Don't tell me what I am trying to do.
encourage others also, to disregard your false claims based on supposed authoritativeness of the Roman Church
That is not what I ask a Protestant to do. What I ask all to do is read the Holy Scripture and by the authority of the Holy Scripture, on which we agree, come to recognize the truth of the Catholic Church and her divine authority, and see the error of the theological fantasies of the so-called reformers.
who are you, that seeks to assert power over me
A baptized and confirmed Catholic Christian.
I stick with the Immersionists
Good grief, I thought I heard of everything. Thank you overall for this fascinating post; have a good day.
That is because when a Protestant mentions that St. Peter was renamed Rock, and given the Keys of Heaven, and a prayer of Christ to lead the Church, — that all that was based on the confession of Peter and not on the person of Peter, — then in the mind of a Protestant he destroyed the scriptural basis of papacy. But of course it is not so, for surely it is the faith of Peter and the divine appointment that gave him the faith and not, for example, Peter’s hair or sense of humor or skin tone, or skills as a fisherman, — not, in short, his peculiar person, — that mattered in his papacy.
Aha. True that, they don't. But they teach you something.
You sound upset. Is it something I said?
If it's by works, it's then merited and ceases to be grace.
Romans 11:6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace.
Amen...and it's why Jesus said we could know them by their "fruit". A rotten tree produces - quite by nature - bitter fruit, if any at all, and a good tree, one that was established correctly, produces good fruit - also by its nature - with some producing much and others, less. This speaks to motive, as well. Because the unregenerate can do good deeds and seem to be good people. The Catholic Church even contends that those who never hear of Jesus Christ, or their church, can "achieve" salvation: "Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience." (Lumen Gentium).
What is most ironical is the few here that INSIST that "Protestants" cannot possibly be saved unless they join to the Roman Catholic Church, yet they allow that an unbeliever (someone who had never believed in Christ) can be saved if they do their best according to their own consciences. I'm glad I only have to answer to Almighty God, who knows my heart and my faith, rather than bigots who don't even follow their OWN church's proclamations. If we have the Holy Spirit, we will produce fruit that pleases God - it will be natural.
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