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To: nd76; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; CynicalBear; ...
But there is always the possibility that the sinner who is sincere and contrite and makes a thorough examination of conscience and confession can be saved. The SSPX states the traditional position. Although earlier in his life the Nazi was certainly a manifest sinner, apparently he did not commit the unforgivable sin of final impenitence (”blasphemy of the Holy Ghost”).

The only unforgiveable sin in the eyes of the Catholic church is becoming a Protestant.

It sure doesn't seem that any other sin, no matter how abominable or heinous or depraved, stops them as much as a person converting to Protestantism.

26 posted on 10/16/2013 6:04:09 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: metmom
The only unforgiveable sin in the eyes of the Catholic church is becoming a Protestant.

You can't be serious. Either that or you are grossly misled. I am a Catholic and I can tell you that the Church loves Protestants. It impersonates them at every turn and uses their music and forms almost exclusively. After all, we completely threw out our ancient liturgy so we could use one which Protestants might like. No, the only unforgivable sin in the Church today is that which the SSPX have committed. It is to deny modernism and pursue traditional Catholic piety. This is simply unacceptable. The pope will publicly praise and embrace homosexuals and atheists, but you will never see these gestures for the SSPX or their ilk. No, they are damned. Just consider that parishes all over the country are so liberal as to be puke-inducing, and they are never corrected. Puppet Masses, Barney Masses, Clown Masses; these are all just hunky-dory. They can teach any liberal idea, and promote all the Protestant concepts they like, and nobody will do anything but praise them. But, if they were to decide to offer the Traditional Latin Mass they would be gone so fast your head would spin. No, this is the unforgivable sin in the modern Church, and woe to the one who commits it.

29 posted on 10/16/2013 6:24:01 PM PDT by cothrige
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To: metmom; nd76; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; smvoice
>> The only unforgiveable sin in the eyes of the Catholic church is becoming a Protestant.<<

It does appear that way doesn’t it? Even the Muslims are better since they are first.

CCC841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day.

Or even those who don’t believe in Jesus but just need to follow “his own understanding”.

1260 "Since Christ died for all, and since all men are in fact called to one and the same destiny, which is divine, we must hold that the Holy Spirit offers to all the possibility of being made partakers, in a way known to God, of the Paschal mystery." Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved. It may be supposed that such persons would have desired Baptism explicitly if they had known its necessity.

But that’s all different than the ones who believe you have to be Catholic to be saved including a supposedly infallible statement.

• Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam: “We declare, say, define, and pronounce [ex cathedra] that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff.” "If, therefore, the Greeks or others say that they are not committed to Peter and to his successors, they necessarily say that they are not of the sheep of Christ, since the Lord says that there is only one fold and one shepherd (Jn.10:16). Whoever, therefore, resists this authority, resists the command of God Himself. " — Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam (Promulgated November 18, 1302)

But then they say it’s not Peter that the RCC is built on but his confession.

CCC424 Moved by the grace of the Holy Spirit and drawn by the Father, we believe in Jesus and confess: 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.'8 On the rock of this faith confessed by St. Peter, Christ built his Church.9 "To preach. . . the unsearchable riches of Christ"10

And believe it or not that is all clear to Catholics so we have been told.

31 posted on 10/16/2013 6:27:52 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: metmom

“The only unforgiveable sin in the eyes of the Catholic church is becoming a Protestant.

It sure doesn’t seem that any other sin, no matter how abominable or heinous or depraved, stops them as much as a person converting to Protestantism.”

No truer words...at least on FR anyway. lol


38 posted on 10/16/2013 7:36:50 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: metmom; nd76; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; CynicalBear
It sure doesn't seem that any other sin, no matter how abominable or heinous or depraved, stops them as much as a person converting to Protestantism.

I don't know if you know how true your statement is. My wife became a Christian, my Father in Law became a Christian before he died, my Sister in Law became a Christian, and I keep talking with my Brother in Law. The other relatives don't say to much to us anymore.

41 posted on 10/16/2013 7:52:18 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: metmom

“It sure doesn’t seem that any other sin, no matter how abominable or heinous or depraved, stops them as much as a person converting to Protestantism.”

That’s such a religiously prejudiced crock.


66 posted on 10/17/2013 1:25:34 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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