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To: marshmallow

Calm down folks and read what he said without adding to it.

The right to life is fundamental.

No difference between starvation and abortion - neither the fetus nor the child/adult that is starved to death has a choice in the matter.

Find satan where he is - in those running from the Church because they have selfishness in their hearts for sharing the gifts God blessed them with - like two strong arms.

How do you stop poverty that leads to starvation? INSERT SHOUTING HERE.


20 posted on 10/16/2013 3:14:11 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
No difference between starvation and abortion - neither the fetus nor the child/adult that is starved to death has a choice in the matter.

No, I get the logic of it. What he says makes sense. It is his solution 'government.' I have been to too many bad places in this world over the past 24 years. The really starving poor all live in countries where their government does not care there are poor and if missionaries and NGO groups go there to feed those poor, they are either forced out, kidnapped, murdered or the despotic government takes the food and gives it to political cronies. Plus these nations are mostly Muslim in belief or primitive and give not a hoot what nice Francis in the pointy hat has to say.

So if the concern is over these truly, truly horribly poor people then directly enforcing aid must get into these despotic countries to help the poor. The best thing Francis can do to make this happen, I mean really get help where it is really needed is to call a Poverty Crusade where willing nations use military force to thoroughly crush the despots, occupy the country and minister to the poor. We all know that will never happen, and also know that war leads to more suffering and more poverty. So there you have it. The "poor" in developed countries aren't really poor by the standards of the really desperate poor. There is enough personal wealth in our country alone to handle by charity our poor.

23 posted on 10/16/2013 3:28:42 PM PDT by redleghunter
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
Dear If You Want It Fixed - Fix It,

“No difference between starvation and abortion...”

Sorry, that doesn't fly.

There are many poor people in the world. There are also many unborn children brought to abortion clinics. Compared to the percentage of unborn children who die when brought to abortion clinics, the percentage of poor people who die of starvation from poverty is relatively modest.

As well, the entire purpose of seeking an abortion is to kill the unborn child. There is no such teleology of poverty.

My parents grew up poor. Neither died of starvation. Neither did any of their brothers or sisters, eight siblings in total. My grandparents were all poor. No one died of starvation. My father's mother was one of 10 children. All were poor. None died of starvation.

They all came from Italy. They came from desperately poor families. That's why they came to this country, because “poor” in this country was a darned sight better than “poor” in Italy at the end of the 19th and the beginning of the 20th centuries.

Yet, my parents have been to Italy and have met our cousins who are the children and grandchildren of the ones who stayed behind. Even during the worst of times, none of these lateral ancestors died of starvation.

Yet, nearly 100% of unborn children on whom abortion is committed die.

I don't wish to minimize the tragedy of poverty, the difficulties that go with it. As I said, my own parents grew up poor, and when they were alive, they related stories to us that were sometimes heartbreaking.

But putting poverty on the same level as abortion is stupid and evil.

But I've come to expect no different from most bishops, sadly.


sitetest

26 posted on 10/16/2013 4:37:41 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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