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To: Bryanw92
I know a lot of Fundamentalists, and the fact that the words “Mother of God” does not appear in the bible is no reason to lie and accuse others of "Mary worship".

Of course, the Fundies I know aren't dumber than a bag of hammers so any Fundies with an earthworm league IQ may see things differently and consider telling lies a normal part of their "Christian witness" facade.

4 posted on 10/12/2013 9:50:20 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory)
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To: Rashputin

Fundies VS the Cult

hhmmm


5 posted on 10/12/2013 9:53:26 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Rashputin

Of course they must be lying to say the first of act of the current pope was to bow to an image of Mary’s supposed likeness, and to pray to it and to offer flowers on an altar to that image, right?

https://insidethevatican.com/back-issues/april-2013/pope-francis-first-day

Am I supposed to believe that Catholics do not do this, or am I supposed to believe there is no possible danger of committing the abomination of idolatry during these acts?


16 posted on 10/12/2013 11:20:38 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Rashputin; All

“I know a lot of Fundamentalists, and the fact that the words “Mother of God” does not appear in the bible is no reason to lie and accuse others of “Mary worship””


On the other hand, the fact that you guys bow before her altar, offer incense to her statues, and pray to her, and exalt her as a spotless, sinless human being who can save you from your sins, is no reason to deny that you don’t worship Mary, and doesn’t give you the right to accuse others of lying about what you do.


24 posted on 10/12/2013 1:23:12 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (If anyone tells you it's a cookbook, don't believe them.)
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To: Rashputin
Of course, the Fundies I know aren't dumber than a bag of hammers so any Fundies with an earthworm league IQ may see things differently and consider telling lies a normal part of their "Christian witness" facade.

LOL, you are such a cheerful Catholic:)

Well you have to admit Mary veneration or worship can get a bit out of hand after a casual look.

Take this article:http://www.csicop.org/sb/show/grilled-cheese_madonna/

Grilled-Cheese Madonna Investigative Files Joe Nickell Volume 18.3, September 2008 Since it came to light in 2004, it has become the quintessential holy image to appear on an item of food: the face, many say, of the Virgin Mary on a grilled-cheese sandwich. While it has sparked little piety—the Catholic church has not sanctioned it as divine—it has become the subject of controversy and ridicule and has even suffered insinuations of fakery. I once had custody of the curious item, and I was actually able to photograph and examine the image under magnification (figures 1–2). Here are my findings. Background The image reportedly appeared ten years earlier in the Hollywood, Florida, home of Gregg and Diana Duyser. Mrs. Duyser, fifty-two, said she had grilled the sandwich without butter or oil and had just taken a bite when she noticed—staring back at her—the image of a woman’s face in the toasting pattern. She perceived it as the face of “The Virgin Mary, Mother of God” and, placing it in a plastic box with cotton balls, kept it enshrined on her night stand. Duyser was impressed that the sandwich never molded. However, toast and hardened cheese that are kept dry naturally resist molding. The Duysers received $28,000 when they auctioned the sandwich on the Internet site eBay. The site had initially pulled the item—which supposedly broke its policy of not allowing “Listings that are intended as jokes”—but the couple insisted that the item was neither a joke nor a hoax. Soon the “‘Virgin Mary’ sandwich” was back, attracting bids. It was purchased by an online casino—GoldenPalace.com—whose CEO, Richard Rowe, stated that he intended to use the sandwich to raise funds for charity (“Virgin Mary” 2004). Simulacra The image-bearing sandwich received—possibly outdistanced—the notoriety accorded other sacred food icons. They include Maria Rubio’s famous 1977 tortilla that bore the face of Jesus, also in the pattern of skillet burns; a giant forkful of spaghetti pictured on a billboard in which some perceived the likeness of Christ; and the image of Mother Teresa discovered on a cinnamon bun (see Nickell 2004). Queried by the Asso­ciated Press during the holy-grilled-cheese brouhaha, I explained that such images are nothing more than evidence of the human ability—termed pareidolia—to interpret essentially random patterns, such as ink blots or pictures in clouds, as recognizable images. The most famous example is the face of the Man in the Moon. Perceived pictures of this type are called simulacra, and many are interpreted as religious images (a female face becoming “Mary,” for example). These are perhaps most often associated with Catholic or Orthodox traditions, wherein there is a special emphasis on icons or other holy images (Nickell 2004; Thompson 2004). In the wake of the grilled-cheese image came others, one on a fish stick hailed as “the son of Cod” (“It’s” 2004), another a pair of images on a pancake. A woman interpreted the latter duo as Jesus and Mary, while her mother, the actual flapjack flipper, thought it resembled a bedouin and Santa Claus (Nohlgren 2004). The grilled-cheese icon even helped inspire an entire book: called Madonna of the Toast (Poole 2007), it treats both “Secular Sightings” (e.g., Myrtle Young’s famous collection of pictorial potato chips) and “Forms of Faith” (including the previously mentioned Mother Teresa “Nun Bun”—missing since it was stolen in 2005).

160 posted on 10/12/2013 9:57:49 PM PDT by redleghunter
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