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A Sad Reminder of the Art Lost in the Years After the Reformation
The Catholic Herald (UK) ^ | 10/8/13 | Leanda de Lisle

Posted on 10/08/2013 5:24:17 PM PDT by marshmallow

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To: vladimir998; aMorePerfectUnion

Absolutely disgusting, union!

Blind, foolish, care nothing for souls only their stuff and their status.

Thank God He is the one that must open their blind eyes if He chooses to. They make me sick!


141 posted on 10/08/2013 7:39:16 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: vladimir998
Bling? So you would compare some of the greatest works of English Christian art and architecture to cheap jewelry worn by rappers?

Yes, it is all the work of men's hands.

Exodus 20

"4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."

An object is either something to worship or not. The third commandment clearly commands us to not worship any object. So objects are just objects, and of no Biblically religious significance. There is no New Testament mention of some objects having a degree of religious significance but not technically being worshipped.
142 posted on 10/08/2013 7:40:31 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: jodyel
Perhaps “things” in this world are not nearly so important as treasure stored up in heaven...where none of those “things” will ever be seen. Catholicism puts way too much emphasis on the bling and treasure of this world instead of making disciples of men for the Lord.

protestants put too much emphasis on "things" that the Catholic church owns....statuary, pictures, buildings, ducuments...whatever....if you don't like it, ignore it...it has nothing to do with you, but the "revolution" destroyed a very large percentage of what the true church possessed.

those acts of barbarism, even more destructive than the Taliban, accomplished nothing and caused immeasurable harm to society by depriving the world of virtually immeasureable art objects.

143 posted on 10/08/2013 7:40:56 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: MrChips

Ah, so it is ok to burn people at the stake for heresy, so long as they didn’t steal the church in which they committed their heresy....

But they did that too. The Cathars had their lives and their lands taken.

All because the Pope claimed authority over the mind of man. Shameful.


144 posted on 10/08/2013 7:41:46 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: jodyel

“The biggest beam of all is in your eye, vlad, if you think for one moment anything of this life is worth a second’s worry.”

Did it take you more than a second to fill out your insurance forms? Seriously, hypocrisy makes someone less than credible. Learn.

“None of it will be in existence for long and it sure won’t carry over to the next world.”

Yep, it is all passing. But while we are here it matters to those who labored to make it, gave it, cared for it, inherited it, and lost it or were robbed of it. Jesus knew the Temple would be destroyed. He still paid the Temple tax. He still worshipped there. It mattered to Jews. Out churches matter to us.

“More and more every day, I see the petty concerns of this godawful religion called Catholicism. Satan has billions right where he wants them...straight on the road to hell.”

I think you’re only speaking of yourself. Hypocrisy.


145 posted on 10/08/2013 7:43:17 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: jodyel

Moses was, I thought, responsible for its destruction.

He must have been an iconoclast!


146 posted on 10/08/2013 7:44:04 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: donmeaker

Protestant burned many. Calvin himself ordered burnings. And all those poor witches in Protestant Germany!!! :-<


147 posted on 10/08/2013 7:44:08 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: jodyel

“Blind, foolish, care nothing for souls only their stuff and their status.”

What amazes me is how anti-Catholics can just make up stuff like that.


148 posted on 10/08/2013 7:44:22 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: PieterCasparzen

They are works of human hands - absolutely - but then they are dedicated to the use of Christ’s Church. They are not mere artworks like secular artworks. They serve a much greater purpose. That’s why YHWH commanded beautiful things to be made for the Temple.


149 posted on 10/08/2013 7:46:36 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

So by your argument when Obama claims that the Senate is in recess to exercise a recess appointment, that means that they are not both part of the government. After all they have different perogatives, right?

Or medieval church and state shared government and authority over the people , and disputed over what share each should have. They were different faces of the same coin.


150 posted on 10/08/2013 7:46:51 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: jodyel
Never have I seen such a satanically inspired bunch of garbage in my life.

you've never seen a protestant church???....hard to believe!

151 posted on 10/08/2013 7:48:02 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: terycarl

Terycarl,

Catholicism is second in revulsion to me only next to Islam. And, truthfully, it is worse than Islam because it claims to be Christian and is anything but. At least Islam doesn’t claim to be anything other than what it is.

“Roman Catholics have a form of godliness, but deny its power.”

No truer words have I ever heard regarding this satanic religion. Billions of people being led astray and some of the most vicious and vociferous ones right here on this forum.

The day Catholics care as much about souls as they do religion or art or dead saints will be a praiseworthy day indeed.

I feel nothing but disgust towards everything related to Catholicism!


152 posted on 10/08/2013 7:48:19 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: MrChips

Doubtless many were burned.

But it is a bit rich for you to complain about the execution of Thomas More for religious reasons when he was an enthsiastic murderer of heretics.


153 posted on 10/08/2013 7:48:25 PM PDT by donmeaker (The lessons of Weimar are soon to be relearned.)
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To: onedoug

ping


154 posted on 10/08/2013 7:48:54 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: terycarl

That sounds like a red herring logical fallacy TC. What I hear is that you can’t prove a single soul was lost.


155 posted on 10/08/2013 7:49:00 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States..)
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To: MrChips

“Your argument is simplistic.”

Yeah. Disagree.


156 posted on 10/08/2013 7:50:15 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States..)
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To: pax_et_bonum

If you only knew, pax, you’d be just as disgusted.

Never have I seen a group more in need of cleansing and washing in the blood of Christ than Catholics.

The stench reaches all the way to heaven!


158 posted on 10/08/2013 7:52:04 PM PDT by jodyel
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Yeah, well. It is.


159 posted on 10/08/2013 7:52:09 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: jodyel

“Thank God He is the one that must open their blind eyes if He chooses to. They make me sick!”

I understand the temptation, but Christ loves them. He is capable of reaching any sinner - even the kind that believes they are righteous, like the Apostle Paul.


160 posted on 10/08/2013 7:52:30 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States..)
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