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I was ready to be done but you’re a fine foil. From your extensive posts I see the mania of your poor-translation, zero experience, and lack of Jewish upbringing to understand what you read.

So, when I said ‘trump.’ For argument’s sake... We define authenticity (having heard it from G-d Himself.) We define the tradition and interpretation, and we define that the Torah has seven laws incumbent upon all puny non-Jewish humans, even you. (unless you’re Jewish...then it is many, many more laws.)

So it’s like a fun childish argument— I say/you say. But I was first.

“I’d rather stick with....” Of course you would....it’s easier to go with what one feels/believe/would-rather-do. So now go ask a priest/pasture/your teacher what HE thinks, and show me the unbroken chain to the source. Can’t? Really? Now go ask JC what his rabbi taught him about that psalm, because there were 1000 years of expounding upon it before he even came along. To each his own. Be a good citizen....

“I was ready to be done but you’re a fine foil. “

Obviously you’ve done a lot to confirm my original thesis about you. You say you “don’t care,” but you’re more obsessed with the matter than I am.

As for your posts, they possess many arrogant bluffs, but no substance. So I’ll leave it at that.

Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

I’d love to see your unbroken chain ...say to Abraham or perhaps Sammy Davis JR.

I found your discussions rather interesting especially this comment:

So, when I said ‘trump.’ For argument’s sake... We define authenticity (having heard it from G-d Himself.)

I suspect you mean Moses since I seriously doubt anyone heard anything from God the Father for a great long while.

The Jews in Jesus' time also had the same issue, in questioning the authority and authenticity (if you will) of the Messiah's message. Some of them believed. Many did not citing the very reason you're citing.

The Messiah asked a very strange but interesting discussion to the Jews of His day who actually believed in Him:

Joh 8:31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, "If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples,

Joh 8:32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."

Joh 8:33 They answered him, "We are offspring of Abraham and have never been enslaved to anyone. How is it that you say, 'You will become free'?"

Joh 8:34 Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin.

Joh 8:35 The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son remains forever.

Joh 8:36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

Joh 8:37 I know that you are offspring of Abraham; yet you seek to kill me because my word finds no place in you.

Joh 8:38 I speak of what I have seen with my Father, and you do what you have heard from your father."

Joh 8:39 They answered him, "Abraham is our father." Jesus said to them, "If you were Abraham's children, you would be doing the works Abraham did,

Joh 8:40 but now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. This is not what Abraham did.

Joh 8:41 You are doing the works your father did." They said to him, "We were not born of sexual immorality. We have one Father—even God."

Joh 8:42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me.

Joh 8:43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word.

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Joh 8:45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me.

This surely isn't one of the most "How to win friends and influence enemies" speeches. Many of the Jewish believers of our Messiah time completely missed the point of the message. They, as well as the Gentiles, are enslaved in sin. One only needs to look inside oneself to discover this to be so. And unless God opens the eyes and ears, that person will remain embedded and will die in their sin. And nothing one can do, following the Torah, praying the rosary, living a good life, etc. will ever be enough to break the chains that holds us into this grip of sin. We are like Cain, wanting to murder our brother, until God gives us a new heart and spirit.

If you want authenticity you need only look into your own human heart. Only the Son can set one free.