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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Several logical conclusions necessarily follow.

- There is ONE Church, since Christ refers to “the church.”
- The Church teaches with the same authority as Jesus, since Jesus could have directed people to Him, to settle disagreements.
- This Church is VISIBLE, since it is impossible to “take” disagreements to an invisible church.

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Your conclusions are faulty, FRiend.

That every gathering - and Paul was writing to a LOCAL gathering - has leadership that the members are to respect and obey is true.
You will have difficulty proving that the local gathering was the one universal gathering. It was a local expression of the universal Body of Christ.
PART of the gathering is visible.

Your logical fallacy is substituting part for the whole.


1,745 posted on 10/11/2013 2:40:19 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (I grew up in America. I now live in the United States..)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Yes, Christ's Body is both visible and invisible. If it were entirely invisible, Christ's command to "take it to the church," would be void, as explained previously.

But that doesn't negate the argument in any way. From Christ's declaration that "if he won't listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector," the following conclusions necessarily follow:

- There is ONE Church, since Christ refers to “the church.”
- The Church teaches with the same authority as Jesus, since Jesus could have directed people to Him, to settle disagreements.
- This Church is VISIBLE, since it is impossible to “take” disagreements to an invisible church.
- This Church must be united in doctrine, otherwise it could not settle disputes among Christians.

1,747 posted on 10/11/2013 3:16:25 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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