Then you get the same old crap repeated time after time from their catechism and from the mouths of somebody that just doesn't know anything about Scripture. They like to make quotes from the Bible, and they claimed that they wrote the Bible. They give nothing to the Holy Spirit and inspiration from above. It's all about their church, church, church, church, church and oh yeah, dead Mary and the dead saints as intercessors.
I got chastised by JR for using the term cult in relation to the Roman Catholic Church. But, when the definition perfectly fits, how can it be anything else? It is a cult of personality and devotion to blind unscriptural traditions. Now, one of them even claims that Jesus was a sinner! They have every right to believe what they want, but it sure doesn't seem like any Christianity that I see in my Bible.
They are the Roman Catholic Church, but the church that I know is the body of Christ, and it's not found in a wafer of bread. It only includes those saved, sanctified, and filled with the Holy Ghost. Going to confession doesn't count. Giving some money to fill some coffers won't gain you anything with God. Especially when you see all the wealth on display, which they love to brag about and worship.
If we did not have a responsibility to share the Gospel, there would be no reason for us to respond to these folk. But, the error that they present may lead someone astray. So, it is to Jesus's Holy Spirit that we can go for guidance, and God on his throne to whom we can pray. They are all the same in substance, and the only thing we need. The simple role that we must play is to believe, just believe...
Luke 18: 18 Then Jesus told his disciples a parable to show them that they should always pray and not give up. 2 He said: “In a certain town there was a judge who neither feared God nor cared what people thought. 3 And there was a widow in that town who kept coming to him with the plea, ‘Grant me justice against my adversary.’
4 “For some time he refused. But finally he said to himself, ‘Even though I don’t fear God or care what people think, 5 yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will see that she gets justice, so that she won’t eventually come and attack me!’”
6 And the Lord said, “Listen to what the unjust judge says. 7 And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he keep putting them off? 8 I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?”
9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’
13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’
14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.” -Love, Jesus
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Romans 8: ... 23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.
26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans. 27 And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for God’s people in accordance with the will of God.
28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. ... - Love, Paul
I did not see anyone painting Jesus as a sinner, while making an individual mortal or ruling body as possessing assured infallibility (whenever speaking universally on faith and morals) is cultic. Even those whom Scripture affirms sat in the seat of Moses did not possess this, though they much acted as if they did, and were thus reproved the Lord using Scripture.
And as i often have said, which, as the assured word of God, is the infallible standard, while apostolic authority was established based upon Scriptural substantiation, in word and in power.
I did not see anyone painting Jesus as a sinner, while making an individual mortal or ruling body as possessing assured infallibility (whenever speaking universally on faith and morals) is cultic. Even those whom Scripture affirms sat in the seat of Moses did not possess this, though they much acted as if they did, and were thus reproved the Lord using Scripture.
And as i often have said, which, as the assured word of God, is the infallible standard, while apostolic authority was established based upon Scriptural substantiation, in word and in power.
it was Elsie who claimed that ALL MEN (Jesus was 100% man) were sinners...I merely questioned the logic of that statement....Pay attention please, before you make inane accusations.