Posted on 09/30/2013 11:30:08 AM PDT by NYer
How do you read the Bible? Today is the feast day of Saint Jerome, who once quipped, “Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ.”
It’s a running joke that if you want to find a Bible verse, you ought to ask a Protestant and not a Catholic. Protestants read the Bible. Catholics not so much.
This raises the question:
I think the answer lies in the fact that we Catholics go to Mass. The Holy Mass has at least two Bible readings every time. If you pray the Breviary or Liturgy of Hours, multiply that several times.
Joe Catholic says to himself, “Why should I study the Bible? I go to Mass. I hear it there. Check and check.”
There is something beautiful in this. For Catholics, Bible reading is liturgical. Hence, Bible reading remains chiefly a community experience.
It’s good to listen to the readings from the Bible at Holy Mass. However, we also need a personal (even private) encounter with God in the pages of Sacred Scripture. All of the saints breathed Sacred Scripture. Scripture served as the grammar for their souls. They couldn’t communicate without it.
Here are some basic spiritual needs that you have every single day of your life:
So when you wake up tomorrow, do the following:
What? You’re too busy. Sorry, you just got served a yellow card:
Doing these three readings will take you only 3-5 minutes. That’s the time of a commercial break. It will change your life for good. I promise. It takes 21 days to make a habit, so give it 21 days and see if you aren’t hooked. Put the Bible on your night stand and read it in the mornings. Start fresh.
“Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ.” – Saint Jerome, Doctor of the Church
Except that you're wrong. The Bible, written by that Jew Paul, inspired by the Holy Spirit, tells us that.
Romans 3:1-2 Then what advantage has the Jew? Or what is the value of circumcision? Much in every way. To begin with, the Jews were entrusted with the oracles of God.
So if it's true that the Catholic church wrote the Scripture, they tell us here that Scripture came from the Jews.
So you are wrong. Consider yourself corrected.
I join Metmom in asking you to provide even ONE Scripture passage that says Jesus, Almighty God incarnate, required anything MORE than that a virgin would conceive and bear the Messiah. All you really have is wishful, human thinking that God NEVER said was necessary. He came to earth in an imperfect environment, he touched unlcean things and people - that IS the reality. In fact, Jesus was born as a human being like we all are and, with the exception of Mary's virginity - which was how he was not born in sin - she labored with his birth and she brought him forth as a normal child. Scripture says:
But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. (Galatians 4:4,5)
You won't find ANY verses that say Mary had to be sinless - and if she had to have been, then her mother would also have to have been and on and on. Whatever you mean by a "stained vessel" is purely without merit because Jesus was born as a HUMAN man. His sinlessness was because He was GOD, not because his mother was sinless. Scripture says ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God - that means ALL humans who are not God. This casts NO aspersions on Mary - it is how God said it happened. Mary didn't need to be sinless for God to be incarnated.
Maybe if you posted something TRUE about your church instead of just something positive, you wouldn't be challenged.
Makes no difference whatsover what is posted. If its Catholic, the longknives come out.
Now THAT's funny, coming from a Catholic, considering the RCC's history of dealing with those who dare to disagree with it.
Did you miss lines 22 and 23 on that lamebrain graft(sic)?
It was Elsie IIRC, who posted SCRIPTURE that says....Romans 3:23 For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
Your issue is with the Holy Spirit, or the RCC who Catholics claim wrote the Bible, not with Elsie, who should have been courtesy pinged since you mentioned his name.
It's like the Catholic mindset is that people are saved by default until they reject Christ which is not a Scriptural position, but rather the truth is, we are condemned until we accept Christ.(John 1:12-13)
Ouch.
Another poorly catechized Catholic exposed, I see.
tc:WOW, with the same ratios describing all the other churches, there would be 7 Lutherans and 3 1/2 methodists and 2/3 of a pentecostal.
Following your *reasoning* for lack of a better term....
That would mean that there is 560 Lutherans in the world, 280 Methodists, and 53.3333 Pentecostals.
I think your math is a little off.
Nope. I didn’t make the claim. It’s up to the person who makes the claim to support it. Nobody is obligated to take anyone’s say so without evidence.
That’s not a chapter and verse.....
You HAVE to know that the teachings of Jesus as well as further revelation through the Holy Spirit to Paul, Peter, James, Jude and John began to be put in written form within the first two decades of the establishment of the Christian church, copied and distributed to the various assemblies, don't you? What I presume you to say is that there was no "Bible" until the Catholic Church bunched all those books together and called it the canon (the rule of faith). The use of the word "catholic" (c. 105 A.D.) to refer to the universal faith followed by these local assemblies of Christians is NOT the same thing as what came to be known centuries later as the Roman Catholic Church. Let's at least agree on these facts.
Believers and disciples of Jesus Christ began from the moment Jesus began his ministry (perhaps sooner among some of his family) and those who followed Him and heard his teachings - which later were written down through the leading of the Holy Spirit - were the nucleus of the body of Christ, His church - the called-out assembly. It continued to grow especially after the resurrection and the infilling of the Holy Spirit and the entire world was changed by them. But, to call them "catholics" as if they were equal to what calls itself the Roman Catholic Church today is simply untrue. These men and women weren't even called Christians until Antioch - way after Pentecost happened and it was a pejorative term.
If "catholic" means the universal church, the body of Christ, then you guys will have to accept that this includes ALL those who genuinely ARE Christ's - from all times, walks of life and people. You don't own the word.
My blog? What blog?
A *zillion*? How many zero's is that? How many years of study did you take to arrive at that number? How many 0's is that?
Can you provide a link to that source?
2,000 different interpretations? Really? Care to show us where you found 2,000?
However, you're on. Here's a link to some non-Catholic commentaries for this verse....
http://biblehub.com/commentaries/matthew/16-18.htm
And since not 2,000 different interpretations showed up, as far as someone more capable of interpreting Scripture, the Holy Spirit does just a fine job. Better than the non-Spirit filled Catholic commentaries.
There are literacy classes available to improve your reading comprehension.
I do not belong to a denomination. Denominations do not save. Jesus does. I am a follower of HIM, not men or man-made organizations.
I answer to Him and Him alone. Hardly the easier road.
God tells us what sacrifice we should offer...>
Romans 12:1 I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship.
“I’ve good a pretty good idea what ARROGANCE is though.”
No, I don’t think you do.
“Mary is dead.”
She returned her soul to God two millennia ago, certainly.
Do you really think her soul is dead?
LOL!!!
The hypocrisy abounds.....
“The hypocrisy abounds.....”
Ah, now we are joined by an individual who doesn’t know what hypocrisy is.
Can we get a panel member who doesn’t know what “is” means?
“I suppose the solution would be to ping you every time Prots are broadly maligned as you see being done to Catholics.”
I’m more than okay with that. If it’s happening, I’d like to see it.
Perhaps, though, we should agree in advance on a neutral arbiter who would decide whether comments made were indicative of bigotry.
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