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To: kinsman redeemer

This from the Baptist Bulletin 2011 sums it up nicely . . . see below:

Should We Pray to Angels?

Q&A September/October 2011
Norm Olson September 2, 2011

Q. Recently I was introduced to some literature by a group that says believers should petition angels. The group says that angels are our best friends and want to help us but that they cannot or do not because we don’t ask them. In other words, we’re not receiving all kinds of good things from them because we’re not asking. Please comment.

A. Why settle for angels, when the Bible says that God Himself, the very creator and sustainer of the universe and of each of us, longs for us to pray to Him (Matthew 6:9; 7:7–11; 1 Thessalonians 5:17)? Further, the Lord Jesus, our Savior, is sitting at the right hand of God the Father making intercession for us (Hebrews 4:14–16; 7:25).

Interest in angels has been very high in recent decades, but unfortunately, false notions and beliefs about them have accompanied this fascination. Many people exalt angels while seemingly having little use for God Almighty (except in profanity) and for Jesus Christ and His salvation, which they need to be saved. We must understand the true Biblical doctrine of angels to not be carried away into false thinking and practices. The meaning of “angel” (mal’ak, Hebrew; aggelos, Greek) is basically “messenger.” God has used angels to communicate His words and His will, and to carry out various assignments. The idea of praying to angels reverses this divine chain of command, because it would make the angels the deciders, the authorities of what should be and what shouldn’t be. Angels are God’s messengers, doing His bidding; in contrast, angels are not our messengers, or go-betweens, to God. Nowhere does Scripture teach that we should pray to, or worship, angels.

We must always consider that angels are created beings and don’t have the divine attributes of God. I want to pray to God because only He is all-knowing, all-powerful, and everywhere present. Only He can answer prayer. Angels do not have these attributes. Ephesians 3:20 reminds us that God is able “to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us.” Philippians 4:19 says, “My God shall supply all your need according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus” (italics added).

I do want to emphasize that we affirm and thank God for the existence of angels and their work, practically all of it unseen. Why? Again, the Bible tells us to. Psalm 91:11 is as true today as when the psalmist wrote it: “For He shall give His angels charge over you, to keep you in all your ways.” Psalm 34:7 assures believers, “The angel of the Lord encamps all around those who fear Him, and delivers them.”


24 posted on 09/29/2013 8:32:37 PM PDT by Maudeen (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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To: Maudeen; JSDude1; stars & stripes forever; kinsman redeemer; ebb tide; redeemer; fish hawk; ...
Not again. The egregious extrapolation and arguments from silence that RCs must resort to in order to seek to support prayer to departed saints in Heaven (PTDS) have been well exposed. Yet the weight of Scriptural substantiation is not even the basis for the veracity of RC doctrine, but the premise of Rome authority is, and whereby this tradition of men is taugt as doctrine.

And which specious argumentation is required due to the failure of the Holy Spirit to provide even one prayer to anyone else in Heaven but the Lord, or to instruct us to address prayers to departed saints ore angels.

For despite prayer being a most basic practice, out of about 100 prayers (that of spiritually beseeching help) to Heaven in the Scriptures, and multitudes of references to pray to God of the Holy Spirit provides absolutely zero prayers to anyone else in Heaven but the Lord - except by pagans (Jer. 43) - to whom He Himself cries to (Gal. 4:6) and instructs believers to look to (Heb. 12:2) and pray to. (Mt. 6:9)

And who teaches that in Christ believers have direct access to God in the holy of holies, (Heb. 10:19) and that there is only intercessor btwn God and man, that being the incomparable who ever lives to make intercessor for the saints. (Heb. 7:25)

In addition is the fact that "saints" is used to refer to all believers, and all true believers are with the Lord after death, awaiting the resurrection and the judgment seat of Christ , and loss and gaining of rewards with their crowns.

95 posted on 09/30/2013 11:14:21 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Maudeen

Oh, that God would open their ears to hear!

Thanks for posting.


183 posted on 10/01/2013 4:48:49 AM PDT by jodyel
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