Posted on 09/27/2013 1:26:05 AM PDT by jodyel
friend, I cannot help you. Maybe the Holy Spirit can reach through the muck and mire of Roman Catholicism. You come back at me asking where it says what you wanted to say, but you don’t give me anything by way of direction.
They are dead. They are waiting for the resurrection! What do you not understand about that? I don’t care what the Roman Catholic Church teaches, but I knows what Scripture tells us.
“They are dead, Jim!” They are asleep until the last trump blows… and they are not going to be doing anything to help you here on earth. Claims of miracles and astounding feats are easily spread like all rumors. But just like the rumor mills, what begins with the first telling is completely twisted by the time it gets to the last ear. That confusion does not come from God. God shines his light and dispels the darkness. The light is Jesus Christ. The hope is for us. He’s shining on you now!
There’s absolutely nothing illogical about the Virgin Birth, the Resurrection, or any other miraculous occurrence. They are facts. Facts aren’t logical or illogical. They just exist. Some of them cannot be explained by natural processes, but they are facts, nevertheless, and they are neither logical or illogical.
It is THOUGHT that is either logical or illogical. There is nothing in Scripture that provides an excuse to engage in irrational or illogical thinking or speaking.
In the simplest (but perfectly valid) terms, the rules of logic are simply rules for how to avoid self-contradiction. And nothing in Scripture excuses self-contradiction.
If they are facts, prove them. The rest of your verbiage is just more of the same leaping to conclusions. Give me chapter and verse IN CONTEXT from Scripture to make your points, not the catechism of the Roman organization...
Hebrews 11: 11 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. 2 This is what the ancients were commended for.
3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible. ...
Well, anybody knows that the body goes into the grave.
What is the state of the soul between now and the General Resurrection?
What is a “dead” soul? Does it cease to exist, and then come back into existence later?
It seems to me that the deadness of the dead is central to your understanding of Christianity. You certainly pound on the point enough, and call people names who question this doctrine. It is obviously very, very important.
So: Where, or in what state, are the souls of people who have physically died? If they are dead, what does that mean? Non-existent. Or, existent and “frozen” somehow?
Well, anybody knows that the body goes into the grave.
What is the state of the soul between now and the General Resurrection?
What is a “dead” soul? Does it cease to exist, and then come back into existence later?
It seems to me that the deadness of the dead is central to your understanding of Christianity. You certainly pound on the point enough, and call people names who question this doctrine. It is obviously very, very important.
So: Where, or in what state, are the souls of people who have physically died? If they are dead, what does that mean? Non-existent. Or, existent and “frozen” somehow?
Same thing the man in the original article said...but Catholics won’t see that. They’ll parse it down to the nth degree to make their case and they won’t even do it with Scripture.
I can honestly see now why the Roman Catholic Church is called the Whore of Babylon!
Some Catholics are so far gone I don’t think there is any hope...never in my life have I seen such naivete, such gullibility, such utter folly and stupidity. And Catholics think we need to learn about Christianity???
I sure hope I am standing within hearing range when some of this lovely bunch come before the judgment. Un-frickin-believable!
Guys, if you want to continue in this futile quest then more power to you, but this one has had enough. Any lurker within 100 light years can see the idiocy and futility of Catholic theology. And anyone stupid enough to get sucked into the Catholic vortex gets exactly what he deserves.
You don’t believe that the Resurrection is a fact?
I thought you said you are Christian. You can’t be a Christian if you don’t believe the Resurrection happened.
Arthur, thanks for playing but you are not a winner this time. Don't bother trying again. Your questions have already been answered, if you take the time to check out God's word. If you insist on following Catholic doctrine, it's not my soul that is in danger.
Hebrews 11: ...32 And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson and Jephthah, about David and Samuel and the prophets, 33 who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, 34 quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies. 35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. 36 Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. 37 They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated— 38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.
39 These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised, 40 since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.
You haven’t answered my simple question:
If the person who wrote the original article is a man devoted to the truth, why did he manufacture a fake “quote” from Pope Paul VI? And a “quote” that said the opposite of what Pope Paul really said!
Can you answer that simple question?
Democrat? That lies?
This is interesting. I thought the point of this thread is that those who believe that those who don't believe as they do are damned are cultists. Now it turns out that YOU believe that those who think differently from you are damned--or at least VERY likely to be damned.
That certainly is interesting. Now that we know you are part of a cult, what is the name of your cult?
And a sin of the Holy Spirit like that WILL keep one out of heaven.
Catholics do believe in the Bible. Your information is false.
I thought you said you are Christian. You can’t be a Christian if you don’t believe the Resurrection happened.
Well, I thought I had some ignorance on display before now, but this is too much. Your question asked me if I don't believe that the resurrection is a fact. Never said that I didn't, but it cannot be proven as a fact. Because I have faith that it occurred makes the question seem misguided.
Hebrews 11: 1 Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. 2 This is what the ancients were commended for.
The Resurrection happened. Therefore it is a fact.
I know that the Resurrection happened by faith.
Therefore, I know by faith that it is a fact.
Protestants, or non-Catholics, as I prefer to call them must not realize that everyone has a soul.
The body dies and is buried, but at the moment of death, the soul is judged by Christ. Thus, the souls of the saints in heaven and Mary, the Mother of Jesus, fully human and fully God, can hear our prayers of asking and pass them on to God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
What’s so difficult to understand here?
You don’t have to be a member of a church to be saved for heaven sakes. In today’s apostate church it usually is a hindrance to salvation!
**Truly, truly I say to you...Catholics have to be the most gullible, ignorant, unsaved group in the world.**
You cannot speak in generalities including all Catholics like this.
Should I say that all white people are fat and all black people are skinny, my post would be wiped off the forum.
Generalities only prove that specific information is unavailable to you.
I prayed on how I should reply to this rant (and others that follow) and I feel led to write this:
May Almighty God have mercy on you and I hope to see you in Heaven as much as you’ve indicated you hope to see me in hell.
Pot meet kettle.....do your posting spew attacks? I think so?
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