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To: Mr Rogers
It was 12,000 words,not pages,

Indeed .. 12,000 words, not pages. Still, a daunting task to read and contrast against church teaching.

and the Pope knew his audience would be mostly non-Catholics.

The interview was given to the Jesuits, a Catholic religious community. I'm sure you are not suggesting the Jesuits are not catholics.

Are you suggesting the Pope is too naive and ill-informed of the world to give an interview appropriate for the audience?

I have no personal knowledge of what arrangements and/or agreements were made prior to the interview. I am simply stating a fact. The interview was given to the Jesuit Catholic Community of which the pope is a member.

20 posted on 09/20/2013 3:58:27 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer

“The interview was given to the Jesuits, a Catholic religious community. I’m sure you are not suggesting the Jesuits are not catholics.”

Was the interview a private one with Jesuits, or translated and meant for public publication? Who was the REAL audience? And how did the REAL audience react?

It is silly to suggest the Pope gave this interview, for public publication around the world, for Jesuits only. The intended audience was the world, and the world reacted predictably. If the Pope didn’t predict the reaction, he is stupid. If he did, then he is damaging the cause of Christianity, and cutting off Christians around the world who are under attack for believing and preaching traditional Christian morality - and the need for repentance.

I’m a baptist, but that means my values are under attack. Real attack. It is increasingly likely that I could lose a job, lose a business or face some other punishment for refusing to say homosexuality is OK. But too many supposedly Christian churches have watered down what it means to convert, and made it a question of feeling good about yourself instead of first rejecting what you are and are going to be unless God invades your life. We see large churches fill the pews with calls to become friends with God, without first recognizing that we are born enemies of God and God-haters.

Frankly, I don’t need what has long been a pretty reliable ally going wobbly, and suggesting evil is...well, not so bad.

The Gospel includes:

“You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bear fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham. Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.

I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.”

That isn’t quite the ‘we need to see God in the face next to us’ preaching that marks the ‘seeker churches’ and now the Catholic church. If Christians don’t take sin seriously, why should the world?

If Jesus discussed Hell, shouldn’t we?


21 posted on 09/20/2013 4:23:56 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberals are like locusts...)
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