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To: steve86; Mrs. Don-o; Tax-chick

I’m actually not looking at the Pope’s statements with a predisposed to praise POV as I’m not a Catholic; but I do like what he is saying, and any deathists or other glorying in their shame type people jumping on the Pope bandwagon are likely doing so erroneously, thinking he’s saying something he’s not...

God’s unconditional love does not mean “do whatever you want, you’re fine as you are” and the Pope is not saying that. That’s clear to me. If I’m wrong, I’ll admit it.

Also, no fallen soul can experience His love if they want to remain as they are. If they’re comfortable in their dirt. There has to be some inkling of repentence, some part of the heart that wants God, that wants to change, that wants to be a new person, in order to have that opening where His love can enter in. Like a chink in the armor, a crack in the cave wall, a missing brick in the dungeon, where a bit of light shines in. Even a cry in the night - are You there???

It’s the beginning of the relationship.


34 posted on 09/19/2013 9:04:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
Also, no fallen soul can experience His love if they want to remain as they are. If they’re comfortable in their dirt. There has to be some inkling of repentence, some part of the heart that wants God, that wants to change, that wants to be a new person, in order to have that opening where His love can enter in. Like a chink in the armor, a crack in the cave wall, a missing brick in the dungeon, where a bit of light shines in. Even a cry in the night - are You there???

Marvelous prose again, and no Christian could disagree, but the issue to me is: The pope is handing the other side a napalm flamethrower to use against the church. I do not believe it was his intention to do this, and you certainly can't find evidence of it in his writings per se, but that's the way it people take it (not just the MSM).

36 posted on 09/19/2013 9:12:10 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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