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To: jodyel

“And it is very telling because not one Catholic here has ever said to me that they are born again and Spirit filled.”

We use different terminology, and view the thing from the standpoint of a more sophisticated, more mature, and deeper understanding of theology.

Signing on to the Protestant understanding of ”born again and Spirit filled” is several steps backward in spiritual and intellectual development.


114 posted on 09/18/2013 1:02:30 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
Signing on to the Protestant understanding of ”born again and Spirit filled” is several steps backward in spiritual and intellectual development.

Oh, really! Then Jesus must not have been speaking for God. Oh, wait! Jesus is God!

Please use that great Catholic intellect to quote the Scriptures that say that we do not have to be born again, no are filled with his Spirit. Oh wait, that's just another tradition of men... Or, Roman Catholic theology as it's commonly referred.

John 3: 3 Jesus replied (to Nicodemus), “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”

4 “How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”

5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

119 posted on 09/18/2013 1:19:17 AM PDT by WVKayaker ("The only place that the left hasn't placed the blame is on their agenda..." -Sarah Palin)
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To: dsc

“We use different terminology, and view the thing from the standpoint of a more sophisticated, more mature, and deeper understanding of theology.

Signing on to the Protestant understanding of ”born again and Spirit filled” is several steps backward in spiritual and intellectual development.”

Wow, well aren’t you just the smartest boy in the class?!

No, I do not think you are born again, dsc.....no believer would speak like that to a fellow believer. There is the Catholic arrogance and looking down the nose at anyone outside of its walls in all its glory.

You just gave away what you truly are, dsc....a Catholic snob. lol

It takes absolutely no sophistication or great intellect at all to understand the simple message of the Gospel...even a little child can understand. Seems that is the kind of thing the Pharisees might have said of Peter or any of the other disciples they did not consider sophisticated or intellectual enough to follow Jesus. But Jesus did not choose those who thought themselves smarter or more knowledgeable. He chose simple men....men who could be taught His simple truths. Not a Pharisee among them until Joseph of Arimathea.

I stand by what I said before...no true believer stays in a Catholic church once born again.

Thanks for your comment.


121 posted on 09/18/2013 1:28:42 AM PDT by jodyel
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