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To: matthewrobertolson
"First, God is of the living, not of the dead. “Now He is not the God of the dead but of the living; for all live to Him.” - Luke 20:38 (NASB)"

But what has to happen before a person can go to heaven? They have to die, right?

They are spiritually alive, you're right...but they are not omniscient nor able to hear us. They are in a state of eternal bliss; nothing concerning this world affects them.

81 posted on 09/15/2013 4:32:58 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
>> They are in a state of eternal bliss; nothing concerning this world affects them.<<

Can you imagine? A believer dies and goes to heaven then is still involved in the pain and suffering in this world? That’s what Catholics would have us believe. And they think that saints become omniscient like God. It’s straight from Satan who wants to be like God.

87 posted on 09/15/2013 4:49:21 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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