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To: driftdiver
So why pray to a Saint (intercessory or not) when a person can pray to Christ the King?
Suppose, for the time being, that all fathers (in families) were the heads of their households. And one such family's little child wanted a puppy. That little child, if his/her father was somewhat firm, might go to their mother, and ask, "Could you please ask dad to allow me to have a puppy?"

Saints were regular people other than the fact they put Christ above all. So they are easier to approach for many people. And since they all led the most spectacularly unique lives (again, all for Jesus!), this draws many asking for favors (of intercession). There have been many miracles attributed to the intercession of saints; some saints are almost ridiculously "popular," but it's always Christ Who allows the miracle... attributed to a saint.
74 posted on 09/15/2013 4:07:50 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy

say what?

All people are sinners except for Christ. So I should ask a sinner for help when I could ask the sinless who sits at the right hand of God?


83 posted on 09/15/2013 4:34:38 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: mlizzy
That little child, if his/her father was somewhat firm, might go to their mother, and ask, "Could you please ask dad to allow me to have a puppy?"

And not one parent worth their salt would let their children play one against the other. Those are terrible parents who raise manipulative brats for children.

Saints were regular people other than the fact they put Christ above all. So they are easier to approach for many people.

Than who? Jesus? If someone thinks that other people are easier to approach than Jesus, their concept of Jesus is VERY SERIOUSLY FLAWED.

And since they all led the most spectacularly unique lives (again, all for Jesus!), this draws many asking for favors (of intercession). There have been many miracles attributed to the intercession of saints; some saints are almost ridiculously "popular," but it's always Christ Who allows the miracle... attributed to a saint.

More spectacularly unique than Jesus? And then the saint gets all the credit? And God is what? Chopped liver?

The God who will share His glory with no other?

Whatever happened to *looking to Jesus the Author and Finisher of our faith*?

109 posted on 09/15/2013 6:01:05 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: mlizzy

Don’t you understand that God wants you to approach Him? He created us for fellowship with Him. He allows us to come right into His throne room, at the foot of His throne, and make our petitions known directly to Him thru Jesus. We are made righteous by Jesus and have access to the great I AM! Why would you not want that? This is the one and only way we are made acceptable to God and are allowed into His presence. Jesus is at the right hand of the Father constantly interceding on behalf of the saints.

Do not let anything or anyone keep you from this wonderful privilege. Shout it from the roof tops as loud as you can. I am God’s child and was bought with an enormous price. And my simple belief in this sacrifice has given me direct access to the very throne of God Almighty, and every other privilege and honor and rights of heaven are mine.

I will rule and reign with Him over the nations when He comes again. What could there possibly be in the Catholic church or in any other earthly place that can compare?


199 posted on 09/15/2013 9:31:58 PM PDT by jodyel
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