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To: boatbums
P.S.: I have NEVER said what you are accusing me of. I also think there is no need to insult anyone if ones message is right.
I didn't save your comment boatbums, but I remember you referring to the Eucharist as a wafer. Since Catholics believe the Eucharist is Jesus, it is highly insulting to say otherwise, especially if you're trying to make a point for your particular belief system. In other words, how can you garner respect from Catholics when you talk about their Jesus in that fashion? You say you didn't say it, which makes it all the worse, as you did. Your word against mine, but I'll drop it, and apologize.

That's not something I would ever forget, though. There is someone else on Free Republic who has called Christ in the Eucharist a cracker. Again, highly offensive (but even more so to Jesus, so I respond with [much] fervor). Most Catholics (including me) are not bothered by someone saying they don't believe in the Real Presence and then continue on with why they don't believe, without being insulting to Christ.
554 posted on 09/21/2013 5:02:21 AM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy
I didn't save your comment boatbums, but I remember you referring to the Eucharist as a wafer. Since Catholics believe the Eucharist is Jesus, it is highly insulting to say otherwise, especially if you're trying to make a point for your particular belief system. In other words, how can you garner respect from Catholics when you talk about their Jesus in that fashion? You say you didn't say it, which makes it all the worse, as you did. Your word against mine, but I'll drop it, and apologize. That's not something I would ever forget, though.

Are you seriously offended by the use of the word "wafer" to describe the Eucharistic host??? You declared, " Anyone who refers to the Eucharistic Lord as a “wafer,” as you have done in the past, gets only about a thimblefull of respect from me.... you are highly insulting to Catholics (and Jesus!)". I guess you should scold and condemn your OWN Catholic Church resources, then, because they refer to a Eucharistic "wafer":

    Bread is one of the two elements absolutely necessary for the sacrifice of the Eucharist. It cannot be determined from the sacred text whether Christ used the ordinary table bread or some other bread specially prepared for the occasion. In the Western Church the altar-breads were probably round in form. Archaeological researches demonstrate this from pictures found in the catacombs, and Pope St. Zephyrinus (A.D. 201-219) calls the altar-bread "coronam sive oblatam sphericae figurae". In the Eastern churches they are round or square. Formerly the laity presented the flour from which the breads were formed. In the Eastern Church the breads were made by consecrated virgins; in the Western Church, by priests and clerics (Benedict XIV, De Sacrif. Missae, I, section 36). This custom is still in vogue in the Armenian Church. The earliest documentary evidence that the altar-breads were made in thin wafers is the answer which Cardinal Humbert, legate of St. Leo IX, made at the middle of the eleventh century to Michael Cerularius, Patriarch of Constantinople. These wafers were sometimes very large, as from them small pieces were broken for the Communion of the laity, hence the word "particle" for the small host; but smaller ones were used when only the celebrant communicated. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01349d.htm

    New Communion Wafer a Blessing for Catholics with Gluten-sensitivity http://www.celiac.com/articles/22314/1/New-Communion-Wafer-a-Blessing-for-Catholics-with-Gluten-sensitivity/Page1.html

    A Hostia is a portion of bread used for Holy Communion in many Christian churches. In Western Christianity the host is often a thin, round unleavened wafer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramental_bread

So, even IF I had referred to the Eucharist as a "wafer" - though I cannot imagine why I would have done so as to be offensive to Catholics - it really isn't wrong to use that word. You accuse me of lying about using it because you are CERTAIN I have some time in the past used it. Even referring to the Lord's Supper observances done in non-Catholic Christian churches, the use of a matzo "cracker" is usual and is hardly offensive. I disagree with numerous doctrines within Catholicism but I back up my disagreement with Scripture that explains my view. I don't NEED to intentionally offend anyone. Apology accepted.

558 posted on 09/21/2013 3:58:14 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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