Posted on 09/12/2013 5:58:16 AM PDT by armydoc
As letters to the editor go, it was certainly out of the ordinary, stretching to more than 2,500 words and not one of them veering on the irate or indignant. But the missive received by Eugenio Scalfari, co-founder and former editor of the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, nonetheless made it into print on Wednesday on the front page and under the impressively brief byline of "Francesco".
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Yes, but your catechism, and the Bible verse you cite, only apply to those who have never had the opportunity to hear the gospel. So, if the question was about God saving people on some remote island with no contact with the outside world, the answer would be find. When the question is about atheists who have already heard the Gospel and rejected it, the answer is absolutely incorrect.
The Church of Your Conscience is open for business
This is disturbing
Those who do not seek to believe should not even be asking if God forgives them. To ask implies that they are seeking to believe. His Excellency, the Pope, kind of ducked the question and answered from another angle, IMO.
This is the gospel of Jiminy Cricket.
lol.
Good one.
He ducked nothing, he said you do not have to be a believer to get into heaven - that is clear.
In essence he is teaching all paths lead to God, ans he is wrong.
funny
I think maybe the sedavacantists will be expanding their ranks?
"Every man who is ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and of his Church, but seeks the truth and does the will of God in accordance with his understanding of it, can be saved."
Armydoc, I don't see how it could apply to Pelosi and other apostate Catholics at all. It is clearly intended for those who (1) have not heard the Gospel but (2) do the will of God as they understand it. Neither of these apply to Nancy Pelosi or any apostate Catholic.
Look, Pelosi went to Catholic Schools for 16 years. She has heard the Gospel proclaimed to her thousands of times. Whatever she may think about the "will of (g)od," she cannot possibly mean the same God proclaimed by the Catholic Church.
It's frighteningly probable that she, Kerry, Cuomo and the rest, know the Master's will but do not do it. Such persons, Jesus says, are like the stewards who screwed up though they were actually aware of what they should have been doing. When the Master comes back, they will get even "more stripes" (punitive lashing) because they knew better.
I see that by way of a response you got my first reply to your ungracious strawman comment pulled. How very clever and thoughtful of you. But my question still stands. The Pope has seemingly implied that it is possible for an individual who openly disbelieves in God and His Christ to enter a state of grace. Can anyone explain how the Pope's comments should be rightly interpreted?
This is the only thread on FR where this is being discussed, and although it is not a caucus thread it is being treated like one. Apparently no one wants to go near this topic with a 10-foot pole. That is too bad.
That's hell.
There are people walking this same earth with us who live in torment in a hell of horrors already within the confines of their minds. They have not "lost" their way. They have rejected the Way.
I think Popes can say or do whatever they want as long as its “Ex Cathedra”.
I had Know idea what that word was, so looked it up and still do not know.
Are you able to explain it?
I believe Sedavacantists are usually very traditional Catholics who believe the present popes are not legit.
It could be that some believe Popes after Vatican II were bogus.
Oh. You were much easier to understand than my search.
I think he needs to get a little less chatty when he gives interviews. These sort of comments beget controversies that help no one, Catholic or Protestant.
I’m going to sort these blaspemies out later in great detail, snapping that pole. It seems even the FRomans are a kind of universalist. I’m not at home though, so I can’t right now.
They respond, Nancy Pelosi just personally met her new Pope, and received communion at the Vatican.
Here the Catholic church is responding to the loss of their beloved Ted Kennedy by burying him in a manner that the common Catholics cannot help but notice, and which reinforces their support for the pro-abortion democrat party.
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