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Is the Syria of Today the Assyria of the Bible?
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 9/10/2013 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 09/11/2013 4:30:11 AM PDT by markomalley

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1 posted on 09/11/2013 4:30:11 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

No.


2 posted on 09/11/2013 4:46:36 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: markomalley

A little tweaking: the author mistakes Jews with Hebrews. Jews are descended from the Kingdom of Judah, the southern state. the whole of the people would be called Hebrews, I suspect because Abraham’s grandfather’s name was Ever, which has the same root consonants as Ivri, Hebrew for Hebrew.

The Assyrians are assumed to be Semites, while the Scythians are assumed to be Indo-European, perhaps Aryans, like the Persians and the Turks. Assyrians were not Scythians.

Ancient Syria was ruled and populated by Arameans, another Semitic people.


3 posted on 09/11/2013 5:14:12 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: markomalley
No it's not. Syria is ancient 'Aram. The name "Syria" comes from "Siryon," a mountain. The name of Assyria, "Asshur," is unrelated.

Ancient Assyria was located in northern Mesopotamia. The so-called "Assyrians" of today are not the ancient Assyrians but rather eastern Arameans (Syrians) who take their name from a British church mission to the area in the nineteenth century ("the Assyrian mission"). The so-called "Assyrian language" of today is merely eastern Syriac. The language of the ancient Assyrians is, like its speakers, long extinct.

However, as a Biblical sentimentalist, a reborn "Assyria" strike me as kind of neat (though they'd probably be anti-Israel). As a matter of fact, right after World War I there was talk of creating an independent "Assyria."

4 posted on 09/11/2013 5:28:21 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; markomalley
But it's not the political, geopolitical, or racial component, though, that's so relevant to us. The prophets' chief concern was the moral lesson.

In Fr.Pope's words:

"If we do not repent, we cannot be strong, and our enemies will surely overwhelm us. And what will our Assyria, our Rome be? It could be radical Islam, it could be our debt crisis, it could be our demographic winter. But by failing to repent, by our injustice, our refusal to keep commitments, our rising unbelief and ingratitude, by our sacrificing our children on the “altars” of our lust and our burning incense to the “gods” of this age, we are calling a just punishment and grave consequences that cannot forever wait."

5 posted on 09/11/2013 5:56:34 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: markomalley
The Sykes/Picot treaty between England and France which basically redrew the middle east on a cocktail napkin is the root of the current strife over there today. It was about oil back then as it is now.

Given the players, I don't know if there is a solution other than to let the Sunnis and the Shiites destroy each other.

6 posted on 09/11/2013 6:39:13 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: markomalley

Even though the answer is “no”, this post reads like the book, “The Harbinger.” Modern Iraq is Assyria of the Bible


7 posted on 09/11/2013 7:53:39 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; ...

Contemporary map

Catholic ping!

8 posted on 09/11/2013 1:02:28 PM PDT by NYer ( "Run from places of sin as from the plague."--St John Climacus)
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To: NYer
Good afternoon.

I would wager that there are more Syrians in Lebanon than Damascus.

For some reason, besides Beruit, they like the Bakka Valley.

I wonder why?

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9 posted on 09/11/2013 1:07:02 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe
Check spelling next time. Sheesh.

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10 posted on 09/11/2013 1:08:30 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Daveinyork
According to Marc Van De Mieroop, A History of the Ancient Near East ca. 3000-323 BC, Assyrian and Babylonian were both dialects of Akkadian, an "east Semitic" language. Hebrew, Arabic, Amorite, Ugaritic and Aramaic are all "west Semitic" languages.

Abraham's grandfather was Nahor. He had a more remote ancestor named Eber, six generations back.

The Scythians and Persians spoke Iranian languages of the Indo-European language family, which were related to the languages brought into India by the so-called Aryans. The Turkic languages are completely unrelated (they are distantly related to Mongolian).

11 posted on 09/11/2013 1:16:32 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: markomalley

Assyria was really Ashuria, the descendents of Shem’s second son Ashur.

Syria, population wise is mostly Selucid Turks.


12 posted on 09/11/2013 1:24:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: M Kehoe

That’s where the water runs.


13 posted on 09/11/2013 1:27:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: All
Ethnicities of the Middle-East:

Super large version.

14 posted on 09/11/2013 1:51:57 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Jimmy Valentine; Jeremiah Jr; Yehuda; cyn; onyx; 444Flyer
The Sykes/Picot treaty between England and France which basically redrew the middle east on a cocktail napkin is the root of the current strife over there today. It was about oil back then as it is now.

The modern riddle of the sphinx, as it were - er, grew.

A sphinx (Greek: Σφίγξ /sphinx, Bœotian: Φίξ /Phix) is a mythical creature with, as a minimum, the body of a lion and a human head. In Greek tradition, it has the haunches of a lion, the wings of a great bird, and the face of a woman. She is mythicised as treacherous and merciless.

Back from the memory hole:

The Sphink at Giza gazes over the horizon at its own image on the ground, which in turn is facing (bowing toward) Mecca.

Sure, man controls his own destiny. /s

15 posted on 09/11/2013 2:16:54 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Racially, Turks are Aryan, not Mongolian.


16 posted on 09/11/2013 2:22:37 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: editor-surveyor
That’s where the water runs.

Runs along with the drugs and weapons...slave trade, and spices too.

5.56mm

17 posted on 09/11/2013 2:49:21 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe

The drugs mostly run north along the Black Sea.


18 posted on 09/11/2013 2:53:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
The drugs mostly run north along the Black Sea.

You are annoying sometimes, but fun none the less.

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19 posted on 09/11/2013 2:57:01 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe

Scolding does annoy the kids, but keeping them amused is important too :o)


20 posted on 09/11/2013 2:59:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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