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Note: this is a Catholic Caucus thread. Meaning if you are not a currently practicing Catholic, please feel free to read...but don't post.

And, for the record, yes, I know the US bishops (as a group, with some notable exceptions) are off the rails on this...along with any number of other social issues...so I don't need a reminder of that...nor does any other Catholic FReeper.

1 posted on 09/08/2013 7:34:05 AM PDT by markomalley
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No mention of immigration at all at my mass (homily, bulletin, prayer intentions, or announcements). The homily was about picking up and carrying our cross on the issues of abortion, capital punishment, and the war in Syria, all tied into today's readings.

I was honestly a little embarrassed by the omission of any talk of immigration. After last night's train-wreck non-caucus thread on this topic, I had warned my wife and children and lectured them on the difference between prudential judgements and moral imperatives as well as the proper role of the clergy. I had even been critical of the clergy for not preaching about abortion enough. Image my surprise and embarrassment when the priest started out telling us all to do more against abortion!

The priest, a visiting Franciscan, did an amazing job of explaining actionable moral theology while remaining completely apolitical. Praise be to God!!!

33 posted on 09/08/2013 11:11:26 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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Not a word this morning at my parish.

The East Coast and sanctuary cities may have gotten it, but obviously those of us here posting have been spared.


34 posted on 09/08/2013 12:27:52 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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No, today’s homily was about the Pope’s request for prayer and fasting regarding Syria.


35 posted on 09/08/2013 1:21:29 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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So can somebody recap? Are we batting 0? That’s sort of incredible to me.


36 posted on 09/08/2013 1:37:07 PM PDT by old and tired
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No mention of immigration subject matter heard at my church today.


37 posted on 09/08/2013 1:59:48 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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The homily at our church was about the Epistle to Philemon and accepting the Other. There was some off hand comment included about about certain elements of our area “thinking Hispanic’s were not supposed to be here.” Very weak, subtle push.
I think immigrants should obey the law first, regardless of sentiments.


38 posted on 09/08/2013 2:17:54 PM PDT by cutofyourjib (The riddles of God are more satisfying than the solutions of man.-G. K. Chesterton)
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I've never understood the immigration anger. This country's problems go far beyond immigration, illegal or otherwise. A complete non-issue, as far as I'm concerned. Is your lawn guy not putting the lines in straight, or something? Did the oranges in Florida not get picked on time?

The US's moral and spiritual collapse has exactly zero to do with Mexicans swimming the Rio Grande. Were the papers of The Holy Family in order, I wonder, when they fled into Egypt? Did they clear immigration control?

Is it completely far-fetched to see a scenario, perhaps not too far into the future, where the US finally defaults on its monumental debt, government handouts cease, urban areas throughout the land rapidly descend into anarchy reminiscent of New Orleans post-Katrina, and Americans in large numbers, including perhaps a few Freepers, head south of the border without the requisite papers, as places like Monterrey and Guadalajara suddenly become rather attractive?

39 posted on 09/08/2013 2:46:48 PM PDT by marshmallow
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Nothing at my parish, actually very good homily on carrying your cross. Also good point was made on the cost of discipleship. Jesus doesn’t like wishy washy cafeteria Christians. Your either all in or all out.


41 posted on 09/08/2013 3:24:13 PM PDT by gracie1 (Look, just because you have to tolerate something doesnÂ’t mean you have to approve of it.)
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Went to two masses here in Diocese of Knoxville, the Vigil Mass in English and the semimonthly Latin Mass. No mention of immigration in either one. Sermons about praying and fasting, Syria, and the readings.

There have been short notices in the bulletin about supporting immigration reform. Which irks me no end, since my idea of "Immigration Reform" is "Enforce the damn law."

And I have no partcular animus against he illegals per se. My animus is against the U.S. government (Democratic and Republican administrations going back decades),which perversely rewards massive fraud and corruption, suborns perjury, backs what amounts to massive identity theft, enriches coyotes, smuggler gangs and narcotraficantes, and receives from me, and from all, the contempt it so richly deserves.

45 posted on 09/09/2013 8:18:35 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("St Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. . . against the wickedness and snares of the devil.")
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Nothing at our Sunday Mass, either, although during the prayers of the faithful there WAS mention of Syria and the Middle East. Nothing whatsoever to do with amnesty.


46 posted on 09/09/2013 2:00:51 PM PDT by Marie Antoinette (:)
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