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New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan said Thursday that one of the biggest problems facing the Roman Catholic Church is the number of people who identify as former Catholics, including many who left because of the 'sinful' behavior of clergy and other Church members....Dolan didn't explicitly mention abuse, but he acknowledged that some Catholics who left the church because "they have been shocked, saddened and nauseated by the sinful behavior" of some of its members. He said Catholics should not hide from that. "It's not a bad idea to fess up to the sinful side of the Church," Dolan said.
1 posted on 09/06/2013 11:32:01 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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another great problem for the Roman Catholic church (similar for some other churches and synagogues) is the number of people (especially those in public life) who still claim membership or affiliation but whose conduct and advocacy is nevertheless Satanic


2 posted on 09/06/2013 11:33:53 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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I left because of the failure of church leadership to excommunicate the like of Nancy Pelosi.

As long as the church supports politicians who enable abortion, it’s too hypocritical organization for me.


3 posted on 09/06/2013 11:34:14 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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“We admit her flaws and we love her all the more because she is Christ on the cross,” Dolan said.

The Church is Christ on the cross ???


4 posted on 09/06/2013 11:36:32 AM PDT by bkaycee (John 3:16)
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I Left because the RCC does not preach the saving Gospel of Grace by Faith Alone.


5 posted on 09/06/2013 11:37:31 AM PDT by bkaycee (John 3:16)
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These SAME folks who left the Roman Catholic Church due to ‘sinful clergy’ etc actually very supportive of homosexual marriage along with ‘women’s reproductive rights’.

These folks are just using the priest scandals as an excuse to protest Doctrine they find too conservative.

Most who left flocked right over to the Unitarians or were charter members of the C&E crowd.


8 posted on 09/06/2013 11:45:00 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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Archbishop Weakland, a self-proclaimed practicing homosexual, and former head of the Milwaukee Archdiocese filled the ranks of the clergy with active homosexuals who did not believe in the teachings of the Catholic faith. Archbishop Weakland also stole church funds to give to his homosexual partners.

Many faithful Catholics publicly condemned what was going on and literally begged the Archbishop to do something. Archbishop Weakland threatened them with lawsuits for defamation and loss of their jobs in the Archdiocese. Archbishop Weakland also criticized Pope John Paul II and fought all his efforts to instill true Catholic values.

Bishop Dolan was sent to Milwaukee to clean up the mess and was fought at every turn by the homosexual network that was already in place.

The Archdiocese is now bankrupt because of the actions of these homosexual priests and the faithful parishioners are forced to pay for the pro homosexual policies that were previously in effect.

9 posted on 09/06/2013 11:46:46 AM PDT by detective
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Ex-Catholic:


10 posted on 09/06/2013 11:47:11 AM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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There’s also the issued of people who were raised Catholic as children, but who then “left.” I would argue that such people were never actual Catholics, because choosing a religion is an adult act. Catholics disagree, of course. Nevetheless, familiarity with a faith, and parental obedience, is far different from free volitional adult choice. If, therefore, after “leaving” Catholicism after being raised in it, a person then chooses to be Catholic, I would say that they have not “returned,” but actually joined for the first time. And if they stayed away, they are not “former” Catholics, but simply raised in a faith they did not choose for themselves.

IMHO, of course - and I apply these concepts to all faiths and spiritual traditions, not just Catholicism.


12 posted on 09/06/2013 11:49:42 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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I left because:

The nuns were she-devils.
I got sick in private school and the nun wouldn’t let me go to the restroom so I threw up on my desk. She made me sit there the rest of the day. When I came back to school three days later, she made me clean up the dried mess.
We had to throw our shoes in a pile and I never got mine back. The nun was ugly about it.
The priest told us we sinned for going on a hayride with a friend at her Baptist church.
The priest got mad on Ash Wednesday because he didn’t want to move bangs out of the way so drew the ashes down our noses.
There is a long list of when I was a child and later as an adult, one of the court cases I had involved a perv priest. Eventually, he was moved on to an unsuspecting church.
One time, I helped clean a priest’s home. His bedroom was filled with suggestive photos of teen boys.
Never again. I’ve had enough.


33 posted on 09/06/2013 1:18:57 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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My experience is that many left the Church after Vatican II because many priests and laity became liberal or latitudinarian in their theology. Many Catholics turned to the fundamentalists because they at least knew who they were. Many others just stopped going to mass after the liturgical reforms which threw away forms of worship they had grown up with.
37 posted on 09/06/2013 2:26:46 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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