Joel Osteen and Pope Francis

patheos.com ^ | August 27, 2013 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

[prisoner6]

Hogwash. I enjoy Joel. Light years better than the pastors that have been in my church who told me to send money to Idi Amin and made me go to marriage classes to teach me not about marriage but how I should back the equal rights amendment.

I also enjoyed Eugene Scott. Made mrs p6 watch him while she was in labor with our second child. Actually it was the only program on the hospital TV that late at night, lol!

[driftdiver]

Call me when he installs gold plated doors in his house.

[arthurus]

Just the lumpy ones.

[arthurus]

You haven’t been paying a lot of attention there.

[SECURE AMERICA]

All I will say is this.
If you do not think that within the Vatican there are treasures worth HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of Millions of dollars you need to buy a clue...............

[arthurus]

Catholics probably don’t send him very much money or buy a whole lot of his books. I suspect Buddhists don’t either, or Moslems or...

[Alex Murphy]

Catholics probably don’t send him very much money or buy a whole lot of his books. I suspect Buddhists don’t either, or Moslems or...

What constitutes a "Protestant" to you, arthurus? Is it simply anyone not Catholic, nor Buddhist, nor Moslem?

[Georgia Girl 2]

The guy just looks sleazy. Billy Graham as far as I know never took a salary higher than $100,000 per year which was modest in comparison with CEO’s running similar sized enterprises.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

All I will say is this. If you do not think that within the Vatican there are treasures worth HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of Millions of dollars you need to buy a clue....

And all I will say is this.

There are 1 billion Catholics in the world.

The assets of the Vatican are estimated at $1 billion.

Harvard's endowment is $32 billion.

The Vatican's administrative staff is smaller than that of the University of Notre Dame.

[Boogieman]

Ok, forget pedophiles. How about Father Korapi? He had plenty of followers and still turned out to be a rotten egg. Should we hold him up as an exemplar of Catholic clergymen? Or would you say that is cherry picking a bad example that is not representative of the group?

[Brian Kopp DPM]

Yep. Thanks for pointing this out. I have yet to see any anti-Catholics recognize these simple facts, and how preposterous the whole “Vatican wealth” line of attack is.

[Alex Murphy]

How about [Father Corapi]? He had plenty of followers and still turned out to be a rotten egg. Should we hold him up as an exemplar of Catholic clergymen?

If you go back in time five seconds before he went rogue, that answer is assuredly YES.

[A.A. Cunningham]

Your problem is that you can't comprehend the written word and also confuse Dr. Kopp with Father Longenecker. In other words you're lumping while accusing others of lumping.

Ain't irony grand?

Does your back get sore lugging that brush around?

[ansel12]

The assets of the Vatican are estimated at $1 billion.

How did they come up with that figure, and what is the total estimated wealth of the Catholic church? What did they estimate the Sistine Chapel art at, and who is the they that came up with a figure that so many sources and economists dispute and that strikes many people as laughable?

[driftdiver]

Nice try. But hey when you can’t win on merit you might as well deflect.

[ansel12]

The assets of the Vatican are estimated at $1 billion.

Another question, would a prudent billionaire be eager or hesitant to purchase the total assets of the Vatican for 1 billion dollars thinking purely of financial investment?

[driftdiver]

The monetary value of the Vatican and Catholic Churches around the world are FAR in excess of $1 billion.

Just the real estate of the Vatican is worth a $1 billion. Some articles put the Vaticans value at $10-$15 billion.

[Alex Murphy]

Another question, would a prudent billionaire be eager or hesitant to purchase the total assets of the Vatican for 1 billion dollars, thinking purely of financial investment?

And is that billionaire willing to sell shares to co-investors?

[ansel12]

Just the real estate of the Vatican is worth a $1 billion. Some articles put the Vaticans value at $10-$15 billion.

Isn't that way outdated, isn't that 10-15 billion dollar figure from a Time magazine article from 1965 for instance?

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,833509,00.html

[driftdiver]

Dunno, there are a ton of articles and they all give different amounts.

I don’t know what the value is, but I feel very comfortable saying its more than $1 billion.