[CynicalBear]

>>But sola Scriptura is nowhere to be found in the Bible.<<

So show us where scripture commended someone to go to something other than scripture to see “if these things were so”. If you can’t, Acts 15:11 should suffice to prove where to go as the only source to check.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “But sola Scriptura is nowhere to be found in the Bible.” <<

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Sola Scriptura is there every time Yeshua says “it is written.”

[metmom]

Ya know what I can’t figure?

Catholics claim that the Catholic church wrote the Bible.

Catholics claim that the Church has not changed in 2,000 years.

And yet, there is so much in the Bible that contradicts or outright condemns current Catholics teaching.

If our interpretation is wrong, don’t you think they could have done a better job of writing it in the first place?

And if they didn’t do a better job of writing it in the first place, then how can it be depended on at all? Why do THEY appeal to it to support their doctrine.

And if so much of current teaching has ALWAYS been believed, why wasn’t it included in the first place? Certainly the most important stuff would have and should have been included instead of being left to *tradition*....

[paladinan]

Sorry for the delay--I'm finally back, for a bit... though I see at least 300 other posts since last night. (*sigh*) I hope everyone will forgive me if I miss one or two...

CynicalBear wrote, in reply to my comment:

[paladinan]
But sola Scriptura is nowhere to be found in the Bible.

[CynicalBear]
So show us where scripture commended someone to go to something other than scripture to see “if these things were so”. If you can’t, Acts 15:11 should suffice to prove where to go as the only source to check.

There are at least three problems with your request:

1) you missed my whole point: if sola Scriptura isn't in the Bible, and sola Scriptura says not to trust anything outside the Bible with your salvation, then you shouldn't trust (or use) sola Scriptura! That's going to be the main problem, no matter whether there are any other sources of help/enlightenment, or not (and there are). Every time you insist that anyone "show it to you in Scripture, or you won't believe/accept it in faith-matters", you're using sola Scriptura... and you're wrong in doing so. Certainly, I'm under no obligation to follow something which doesn't even obey ITSELF!

2) You're assuming that I think Scripture is somehow unnecessary; that is NOT THE CASE AT ALL. Scripture is utterly necessary; without it, we wouldn't have a prayer (no pun intended) of having any reliable way to Heaven. I merely object to your erroneous idea that we MUST use Scripture ALONE, with nothing else at all. The Bible doesn't require that, and neither should you.

3) Why on earth do you think that Acts 15:11 helps your case in any way at all? All faithful, well-informed Catholics believe that we are saved by grace, and by grace alone; the Church has always taught that, and it condemns as a heresy any idea which denies that fact.