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To: Mrs. Don-o
If she is called "the divine mother" by the abbot you quoted, he did not mean that she was a goddess, but that she is the mother of a divine Son. It's like calling the court comedian the "the royal jester" --- it doesn't mean the jester is the king, it means he serves the king.

Oh c'mon now...She is given half of the kingdom of God...She is to be served...She is in charge of all mercy...Not to mention everything else that is in the article...

This guy meant what he said...

352 posted on 08/28/2013 9:12:31 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

There reaches a point where you are convinced that you know what others believe — even when they tell you otherwise.

At that point, dialogue is useless.


354 posted on 08/28/2013 9:14:55 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Iscool
The author you have linked and quoted from at some length is Fr. William Wagner, ORC -- I'd ever heard of him before. Mousing around a bit, I see he's evidently not Catholic, but a member of a schismatic group called "Old Roman Catholic,"(ORC*) founded in England in 1910, and is here writing for an Anglican Benedictine website. Please don't hold me answerable to explain or justify the doctrines and devotions of the dear schismatics.

Skimming through this stuff, though, I find it is mostly a particular kind of devotional, not doctrinal, writing. I'd have to parse it line by line to see where it was on target and where overshooting the mark --- something I'd do if I had a couple weeks with a broken leg, but don't care to do now.

If you want ornate courtly poetry, by all means go to the Anglicans. For Catholic doctrine, go to the Catechism (Link)

(I keep saying that, and nobody ever takes me up on it. That's unfortunate. It would save you a lot of brow-furrowing and foot-stomping, and me, too.)

Using the search feature of the Catechism should help you cut through a lot of the overgrown verbal kudzu.


*The letters "ORC"' can also represent membership in Catholic movement, which in English would be Order of Canons Regular, which I understand has members in Portugal and Brazil. I suspect this guy is an Anglican rather than a Portuguese, since he's writing at an Anglican website.

If I'm wrong, let me know.

368 posted on 08/28/2013 10:27:44 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." - Groucho Marx)
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