[CynicalBear]

>> Your saying in your original argument that God did not need Mary His Mother but he could have been made from Rocks instead of being born of a woman?<<

Common. NO. The point is that God Christ was going to be born according to prophecy. Period. The credit goes to God, not to Mary. That’s the point. Catholics just don’t get the concept of giving glory to God rather than man do they.

[johngrace]

He wanted a mother? He has a mother because he was born from a mother? If he is is sinless which of course he is sinless does he have to honor his mother? If to obey a commandment makes him sinless how can he not honor his mother?

It can not stop because the actual fact is he has a mother now? When we honor it has to be special? Otherwise why do we honor?

How does a God man honor his mother?

These are the questions that brought me back to the church many years ago. Just so you honestly know.