It should be clear to any objective viewer of this discussion here that you are richly indulging in the “begging the question” fallacy. It’s sure clear to me. So I see no need to continue it... go ahead and accuse me... your accusations simply fall on Christ.
Really... (as I muse to myself) we got to be careful when dealing with a system of theology that we disagree with, that we don’t inadvertently throw ourselves upon some of that system’s own assumptions without even thinking.
In this case the assumption may be that the organization in question has to be simon-pure or else it is lower than the devil’s poop. The possibility of a fallen, flawed embrace of God’s grace through which God still manages to operate, in SPITE of and not BECAUSE of the flaws, never enters the mental model here. That’s how, I believe, some enter into the fallacy that a system with problems that some claim to be perfect, has to be the lousiest thing since Satan if it isn’t perfect. And they hang on and on when you challenge those people; they vigorously beg the question. When the ultimate problem, completely gone unexamined, was the frame of mind!
The frame of mind when working with Scripture matters so, so much to what you will get out of it. I haven’t just studied the airplane operating manual, reinforcing my preconceptions as I went. I’ve also flown the airplane!
And, that “airplane” does far, far more than I ever dared to dream... and it was all there in the manual but nobody wanted to believe it... they kept thinking it would act like their motor cars and read the manual with that mindset... and thus endeth my parable....