I don't agree...That 'whore' is the counterfeit of the real church...It is and will be hard to tell the difference from the real thing; without the benefit of scripture alone...
But building the spiritual bridges takes time. Light leads them on. Railing at them doesn’t.
Been around long enough to know that that people respond to different things...Some respond to a tack hammer, some, it takes a jack hammer to get through...
You can not build spiritual bridges with people who do not acknowledge Christians being indwelt with the Holy Spirit...
Well, are they forbidding scriptural worship?
The answer seems to be no today. They are actually yielding to the evangelical view, if begrudgingly. The evangelical churches have made them jealous for effective worship of the Lord.
The situation was not as good a century or so ago. Reading the sermons of, e.g. Charles Haddon Spurgeon can be jarring in the sections where he pans the Roman Catholic system without mercy. I still think he missed how Christian worship continued to take place in the Roman Catholic church, quite markedly in remote settings where there was more local autonomy. (Ever notice how the most marked Roman Catholic saints, like the modern Mother Teresa, didn’t do their main thing in some big city cathedral? There’s a reason!) But Spurgeon had a better case than today. (I am actually a blood relative within the last couple hundred years to Spurgeon, incidentally. One of my aunts traced it.)
What you do NOT need to do to help here is to get puffed up and frankly you do look like you are getting puffed up.
Jack hammers do not need jerklike conduct to help them....
Incidentally, one does not have to hang on to a DOCTRINE to be a Christian. One has to hang on to CHRIST. There’s a difference here. Of course the most effective life as a Christian DOES get as many as possible of the doctrines straight. But we must not be arrogant. Arrogance really peeves me big time; it glorifies man’s way of doing things (yes that exists big time on the evangelical side and the sooner we confess and forsake it the better). God’s way of doing things is often more quiet and subtle and if you look at your own life and the lives of other devoted Christians you will see that played out. Remember God was not in the earthquake, the fire, or the whirlwind... God was in the still, small voice (even though He is quite capable of raising earthquakes, fires, and whirlwinds when He deems it suitable).
Ultimately... let’s have a witness-off. You witness your way which I still think is carnally energized. I will witness what I believe is God’s way and divinely energized. Let’s compare results.
I want the glory of God the Son and of God the Father and of the Holy Spirit. These entities exist independently of anybody’s teachings, though wrong teachings do grieve them.
Also about counterfeiting... you don’t know what counterfeiting is. Counterfeiting isn’t the dull, jaded situation of clumsy men trying to modulate the grace of God. Counterfeiting will be downright demonic and will clearly praise hell.