[CynicalBear]

>>that we don’t apply some educated Christian sense to what that might actually mean.<<

It’s been 30 years of study here. I think that constitutes “some” educated Christian sense. OH, and I came out of a system of thought like yours about this matter.

[HiTech RedNeck]

And I have had 55 years of TRIALS... I consider myself the one on which the Holy Spirit has concentrated. Hard.