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I don't feel any antagonism from you at all, ottbmare. What I am saying is that when a non-Catholic tells a catholic something from Scripture, it is NOT the non-Catholic who is saying it personally, it is God who said it in His Word. If there is a problem with it, it should be taken up with God. He said it. And put it in His Word for ALL to see. IF they would just READ IT. Usually when a catholic says something to a non-Catholic, it is from his church's teachings and writings and doctrines, not from the Word of God. That's where the trouble usually begins from both sides. Non-catholics refusing to accept the RCC’s words, and catholics refusing to accept anything that the church has not approved. I don't know if there is any answer to this. Other than coming to a clear understanding of just WHO will be the final authority. God or the RCC.