[MrChips]

I have never, ever understood how one can reform an institution by leaving it.

[Secret Agent Man]

Two things:

1. He pleaded with Rome for years for reform and no reforms occurred.

2. Don’t confuse being a Catholic (subset) with being a Christian. Christianity is larger than Catholicism, or any one particular denomination. The believers before Christ were believers and had no conceptual idea of what “Roman Catholics” are.

[Mr. Lucky]

Lutherans were excommunicated.