Posted on 08/15/2013 2:21:29 PM PDT by NYer
Ping!
Nice! I love this feast.
“The actual event of the Assumption is not described in Scripture” Since that is a basic premise all I can say is if it is not in scripture it shouldn’t be in church
I agree, but those who like this idea will not care. Hasn’t stopped them yet in liking things and holding beliefs such as this.
The death of Moses is detailed in Deuteronomy 34. There is no possible way any of it could be interpreted to mean “Moses was taken up”.
Likewise, there is no biblical reference on the assumption of Mary.
Agreed
This belief has been with Christianity since the beginning. It was held from time immemorial by Orthodox, Roman, Coptic, Armenian, Syrian, Ethiopian, and eventually by the Anglican Christians.
It would be interesting to know how Martin Luther thought of it, in the light of his lifetime devotion to the Virgin Mary.
Three hymns and a lecture are not in scripture either, but plenty of churches have them. How about organs, praise bands, jumbotrons? I have to conclude that your church uses incense since that is in scripture.
If we are to rely on scripture alone, how would an illiterate person come to know God?
“As far back as the Church can remember we have celebrated the fact that Mary was taken up into heaven.”
I don’t think so. This idea only really begins to be referenced in the 4th century.
“There is no earthly tomb containing her body, neither are there relics of her body to be found among the Christian faithful”
Kind of misleading. There is, of course the “Tomb of the Virgin Mary”, traditionally held to be the place of Mary, the Mother of Jesus’ burial. It is said that the tomb was found empty after Mary’s death, but that really doesn’t prove much, since the story came out several centuries later, and there is no shortage of empty tombs in Christianity.
“if it is not in scripture it shouldn’t be in church”
Is this principle in scripture?
How does that help someone without access to electricity.
“This idea only really begins to be referenced in the 4th century.”
The records that we presently hold, show that it was referenced in the 4th century.
The then Bishop of Jerusalem Juvenal testifies that it was the teaching of the diocese of Jerusalem, the assumption, and brought relics proving his case to the Council of Chalcedon.
To hold this in correct context, the Church of the Holy Sepulchre was built upon the site of the death and crucifixion of Christ in the early 4th century - when it was rediscovered. That the church as a whole was unaware, does not indicate that the church did not teach it - only that the divisions of the time had cut off parts of the Church from each other.
Revelations 22:19.
If it is reasonable to bootstrap that something happened because it seems likely, then it is reasonable to think that the scrivenors, in recording God’s words, intended that the readers understand that they were not to add to, or take away from, any book.
“If it is reasonable to bootstrap that something happened because it seems likely, then it is reasonable to think that the scrivenors, in recording God’s words, intended that the readers understand that they were not to add to, or take away from, any book.”
Then what are we to make of the Lutheran bible which removes part of Daniel? Would that not also fall under the interdict for tampering with the Word of God?
What is the relevance? The divinity (second person of the godhead) and mission of the Incarnate Christ, which is the sole foundation of the Christian religion, depends not a whit on the ultimate fate and disposition of the mortal remains of either Moses or Jesus’ mother.
Anyone here heard of an adiophoron?
Well, there are these things called batteries too. I guess you mean stone age tribesmen living in the heart of New Guinea or something? That’s what we send literate missionaries around the world for, isn’t it?
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