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To: boatbums

You just made my point. This is all “your” interpretation of Scripture.

Of course, the Catholic Church is not just a hotel for saints but also a hospital for sinners (not “genuine” Christians, as you call them), as well as for such sinners, (like Mary Magdalene and Augustine), turned into saints. Remember the thief on the right was a brigand and murderer (not a “genuine” Christian) but he was the first confirmed saint, confirmed by Christ Himself. But if there is no One Church, there is no One Teaching, and there is no One Truth. This is why we have the Catholic Church, and why the rest are all heresies and again, I recommend, Hillaire Belloc’s “Heresies,” that hopefully will open the minds of low-information religious adherents. No wonder one the world’s leading Biblical scholar and intellectual, of what came to be known as the Oxford Movement, Henry Newman, converted to Catholicism, and is now a saint of the Catholic Church. You have probably heard of the “Newman Club” at major colleges and universities.


101 posted on 08/12/2013 10:58:35 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Thank-you for making my day with your comments. God Bless.


102 posted on 08/13/2013 6:27:15 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Steelfish
No, I did not "make your point", you just totally missed mine. The Roman Catholic Church cannot be the ONE, TRUE Church of Jesus Christ for the simple reason that not everyone who identifies as a Roman Catholic IS a Christian in the true sense of the word. The genuine BRIDE OF CHRIST is and will be ALL the saved from all time, places, ages and people. It will be THE called-out assembly of born again believers in Jesus Christ and will be clothed in the robes of HIS righteousness washed as white as snow in His precious blood. Now, certainly you MUST know that not even every Pope is saved much less every baptized Roman Catholic. And, just as I said, not everyone who identifies under any other Christian label necessarily IS a Christian since to be a Christian means one has been born again through faith in Jesus Christ. Catholicism says that this is a life-long process that nobody can know whether or not they "made it" until they die and its determined they were worthy by their deeds. Faith in Christ is placed very low on the scale of the "good works" side. True, Biblical Christianity tells us we can KNOW we HAVE everlasting life right now, because we are saved by the grace of God and not by our works. No one will be boasting before Him, remember?

You mention Henry Newman as a "saint" and leading Biblical scholar and "intellectual". What you may not be aware of is his explanations for why the Catholic Church HAS changed her doctrines over the years and why there has NOT been ONE Teaching or ONE Truth within this church. He came up with the term of "doctrinal development" to explain why both antiquity and unanimous consent of the fathers was NOT sufficient to explain the very REAL fact that many teachings of the Catholic Church could not be validated using that "formula". It's ironical that certain doctrines that Catholicism today labels as "heresies" were at one time part of the universal Christian faith. Should anyone decide to break out from under the veil of delusion subtly pulled over their heads and really open their eyes, here is a good article that helps to explain how and why Newman's doctrine came about. It's Rome's New and Novel Concept of Tradition. This is not the only place one can find these facts, but it's a start.

106 posted on 08/13/2013 9:24:52 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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