Posted on 08/08/2013 3:56:12 PM PDT by NYer
With reference to the issue of giving communion to persons in a second union (because those who are divorced can receive communion, there is no problem, but when they are in a second union, they cant ), I believe that we need to look at this within the larger context of the entire pastoral care of marriage.
It sure sounds like he is at least considering a change here, no?
Care to share the study and research that produced this conclusion?
I hope not. Has personal significance to me (even though I’m not married yet). I would be sad to see the change.
Most “codexes” are not bound at all.
Many do not even have ‘hard’ documents.
Your county’s official records system is termed a “codex,” and it consists of a number of “codexes” that are usually full of digital documents these days.
Codex mostly indicates an indexing system that permits easy access to specific pages or sets of pages.
>> “How so?” <<
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Those that love him keep his commandments.
I was never a convert to Orthodoxy nor a member of an Orthodox parish but went to both the Orthodox and Catholic LIturgies every week for 10 years. (Due to the happy availability of the Catholic Saturday Vigil Mass!) Anyhow, the two divorces/remarriages I observed in the Orthodox Church were both illustrations of the saying,
"If you can't be a good example,
you'll just have to be a horrible warning."
Here's the story... (Nope, delete) I just erased a bunch of anecdote. Suffice it to say, I saw families ripped up and torn to pieces because of wives who wheedled their way into Orthodox-Church-approved divorces, described to me as "merciful" applications of "oeconomia."
In once case in particular, the wife finally fell back into reality, regretting what she'd done and wishing sorely that she had kept her old disappointing husband (who was actually a very decent guy) and her marriage intact.
The suffering she inflicted on her family through that "merciful" divorce was immeasurable.
I think she would not have done it, if her pastor had given her a flat "No."
What is it with Catholics and radical leftist slurs like Bible thumper and snake-handler?
I have a better question. Do you believe that Catholics are saved?
Since I don't believe in chrstian "salvation" at all, the question is a non-sequitur.
Be advised that I am going to click on the "abuse" button from now on every time I see the words "Bible-thumper" or "snake-handler." Such slurs belong to leftists, not anyone calling him/herself "conservative."
I’ve already provided a citation demonstrating that your definition of a Codex is incorrect. Take it up with Daniel Webster.
If ‘keeping his commandments’ were the requirement for salvation, we are all condemned. We are under Law, not Grace.
“christian “salvation” at all”
Why am I unsurprised that you reject Christian salvation?
“Such slurs belong to leftists, not anyone calling him/herself ‘conservative.’ “
The only one who has used these terms in this thread is yourself.
Interesting. Thank you for sharing Mrs. DonO. It is good to get the woman’s perspective on this - I have not often heard a woman preferring justice to mercy. Most would rather ‘keep their own options open’ than say what you have said here.
Did the ex ever get into why she found her old husband disappointing, or is that better left to a private message?
Yeah! Gather in His name and His name is His “teaching” and His “Church” not the not like the New Age Bible believers or for that matter any three who hold hands, dance around the sand at Easter and assemble with their local “Foursquare Church” pastor for Sunrise Services. All fine for low-information Christians as part of the leftover from the curse of the Reformation that has spawned some 35,000 Christian sects.
It’s ONE truth; ONE Church; ONE Peter; ONE flock; ONE Sacrifice; and Christ as ONE Shepherd.
The rest is all rubbish.
The Great Commission
(Mark 16:14-18)
“And the eleven disciples went into Galilee, unto the mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And seeing them they adored: but some doubted. And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.”
Divorce may seem to resolve one problem but, like a stone dropped into a pond, the ripple effect impacts everyone. Couples need to consider their vows and take them seriously. When they stand in the presence of God and vow to take each other: "For better or worse, in sickness and health, for richer or poorer, until death they do part", is most serious. Just as the Ten Commandments are not suggestions or recommendations, those vows spoken before God, are equally as serious. It's always easy to find an "out clause" when problems surface; the greater challenge is to make the marriage work, from the beginning.
You appear to take issue with Yeshua’s words.
No, Christ is telling us what it means. “Go Teach” He appoints His teachers through His Church to teach ONE Truth.
Yeshua said that the place where he is is “wherever two or three of you are gathered in my name.”
He didn’t say “I will be in whatever huge demonic building you wish to teach that my word is not my word.”
“Demonic building”? That would be news to Michelangelo.
Your co-religionist Steelfish used the term "Bible-thumper" on this thread, as do your other co-religionists quite frequently.
"Bible-thumper" and "snake-handler" are leftist/atheist slurs and have no place on a conservative forum. I will report every instance of their use I see.
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