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To: ArrogantBustard
"I have long wondered where to find this horrible "Roman Church" many protestants apparently love to hate. It sure has a bizarre set of beliefs ... but does it really exist? I have never found any group or institution that actually professes the beliefs these protestants impute to the "Roman Church"."

I don't know which specific beliefs you are referring to, but - in the context of this thread - the Church does believe that the communion wafer and wine are transformed into the literal body and blood of Christ, although it is said that the "accidental" (visible) characteristics of the elements remain unchanged and it is only - so to speak - the "essence" which is transformed. This is called "transubstantiation." And the Church does teach that the Mass is in some sense a sacrifice. I say these things not because I am a rabid Protestant but because I was raised a Catholic and was taught those beliefs over a period of many years.
13 posted on 08/05/2013 11:06:22 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle
The assertion in question is:

"In the Roman Church Christ is said to be resacrificed each time the Mass is celebrated. "

Again, I know of no organization, group or entity which teaches this. Seriously. Words mean things.

16 posted on 08/05/2013 11:15:52 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Yes the Church does teach that is it the Mass is a “sacrifice” but it is Christ’s sacrifice, not our.

So much fail in this thread on what people think the Catholic church teaches...

By the way, even Christ taught us that the Bread and Wine become his precious body, blood, soul, and divinity. Look at what he said at the time. “Take and it this IS my body, my blood” not this represents, this IS.

Also if it was for show, why did many of the people there leave at that point? Why was it so hard for the people to hear?


33 posted on 08/05/2013 11:43:43 AM PDT by bmontang
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To: Steve_Seattle; ArrogantBustard

Steve, AB is a very strong Catholic, and one of the best defenders of the faith you will meet. He was being facetious.


90 posted on 08/05/2013 5:41:28 PM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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